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Old 01-04-2008, 05:30 PM   #11
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Here's some truth about The Huckster. His aw shucks down home image is nothing but a front for a soulless hypocrite.

The Huckster

If this man gets in to office, this country will become the laughing stock of the world.
I really didn't see anything in that poorly written article to make the guy "Evil"

Oh no the guy might raise taxes, oh no he supports the war against terror, oh no the guy Believes in Creationism!!! What will we all do?????

Dude who ever wrote that is very bias and didn't make any good points.
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Old 01-04-2008, 06:04 PM   #12
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I really didn't see anything in that poorly written article to make the guy "Evil"

Oh no the guy might raise taxes, oh no he supports the war against terror, oh no the guy Believes in Creationism!!! What will we all do?????

Dude who ever wrote that is very bias and didn't make any good points.
99% of political journalism is biased. That is why stories and links there of on candidates are irrelevant. Anyone who pays any serious attention to them doesn't have his own opinion, just one based off of someone else. You have to make your own judgment on those running by what they say, personal vibes and instinct or at the very least - Articles / otherwise written BEFORE that particular person announced his/her candidacy. Unfortunately, a lot of Americans let the media (A nationally democratic media) influence their opinion. After the Dems do something we more or less deem unacceptable in 4 – 8 years, that will probably change. It is well documented that public opinion traditionally has the ‘grass is always greener on the other side’ mentality.

As far as my media comment: Nothing against democrats, I am not affiliated to a single party so I hold no grudge on them. The thing is; you can't please everyone at the same time. As I said, the above paragraph will be applicable to opposite the party that holds office over the next 4 - 8 years by the end of that period. In football terms, we as a nation are fair-weather fans when it comes to our president and government as a whole.
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Old 01-04-2008, 06:11 PM   #13
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99% of political journalism is biased. That is why stories and links there of on candidates are irrelevant. Anyone who pays any serious attention to them doesn't have his own opinion, just one based off of someone else. You have to make your own judgment on those running by what they say, personal vibes and instinct or at the very least - Articles / otherwise written BEFORE that particular person announced his/her candidacy. Unfortunately, a lot of Americans let the media (A nationally democratic media) influence their opinion. After the Dems do something we more or less deem unacceptable in 4 ? 8 years, that will probably change. It is well documented that public opinion traditionally has the ?grass is always greener on the other side? mentality.
I know alot or articles are bias, but the one I was reffering to was an extreme case.

what I tend to do, if I hear/read an article about something I'll look up different articles on the same issue and that way some of the bias is balanced out by a bias in the other direction....does that make any sense?
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Old 01-04-2008, 06:56 PM   #14
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I know alot or articles are bias, but the one I was reffering to was an extreme case.

what I tend to do, if I hear/read an article about something I'll look up different articles on the same issue and that way some of the bias is balanced out by a bias in the other direction....does that make any sense?
Yeah, I am not saying reading them is bad at all. It is just smart to not let one article or rumor effect the way you feel about a person. That is what a lot if not most people do, hear one negative thing about someone that may or may not be true then from there on out, oppose that candidate because of that one blemish. Process of elimination; that is the method which the majority of this country votes by. Besides the few individuals who are able to see the whole picture (Like myself and you I think), once the average voter settles on the guy they want - They will defend him/her to the death no matter what... It has a lot to do with first impression. There are obviously exceptions to every rule... I know a lot of smart people who share these beliefs with me and don't fall victim to them. Let’s just say someone doesn't like Hillary... Most people will put here down no matter what she does, even the good things. I don't like her at all, but I remain open-minded that not everything she has to say or do is bad. I’m not trying to sound superior or condescending here… I just think I hit the nail on the head with my assessment of this countries voting pattern, decision making and reasoning.
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God help us if Obama becomes President. I guarantee he'll do everything he can to make our Constitution a relic and push us one step closer to socialism.

His views and mine couldn't be further apart on the major issues.

He'll do what he can to disarm this country. Both it's military and it's people.
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The Huckster is a bible thumping, rapist sympathizing hypocrite who is hated in his own state for his shitty management style. I hope that Republicans in the country are stupid enough to run this redneck against Obama.
Hey - if you want to throw your vote to a guy who leans towards murdering innocent babies, partial birth abortion and voted YES to allow illegal immigrants to tap into OUR Social Security, have at it. I don't want to hear you or anyone else B & M'ing when your hard earned dollars aren't available when you want to retire because it was sucked dry by illegals.

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I'll say this about Obama's win, and this is completely neutral, just an interesting observation. He mobilized a voter bloc that was silent before. I think like half the people who voted for him had never voted in a caucus before. He mobilized Democrats in a conservative state, in bad weather, and he even got out the young vote. The guy has become a juggernaut and I'd not be the slightest bit surprise if he actually won the whole kit and kaboodle.

We are 11 full months out. After the backlash I got for Huck bashing, I'm reserving partisan comments for awhile, but even the detractors have to admire what those two guys (especially Obama) accomplished in Iowa.
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I'll say this about Obama's win, and this is completely neutral, just an interesting observation. He mobilized a voter bloc that was silent before. I think like half the people who voted for him had never voted in a caucus before. He mobilized Democrats in a conservative state, in bad weather, and he even got out the young vote. The guy has become a juggernaut and I'd not be the slightest bit surprise if he actually won the whole kit and kaboodle.

We are 11 full months out. After the backlash I got for Huck bashing, I'm reserving partisan comments for awhile, but even the detractors have to admire what those two guys (especially Obama) accomplished in Iowa.
I believe Obama got a lot of the "anyone but Hillary" vote, revs. I'm not sure, but I think Edwards either tied her or beat her slightly in the overall vote.
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I believe Obama got a lot of the "anyone but Hillary" vote, revs. I'm not sure, but I think Edwards either tied her or beat her slightly in the overall vote.
I agree.
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The "anyone but Hillary" voters probably did vote for him. But my point was that he mobilized voters who NEVER vote. Every Democrat since JFK has been attempting that, and they've pretty much all failed. If he can ramp this up and continue...well....
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