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Old 01-06-2008, 01:15 AM   #11
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how is that not a step back? he was the best player on a terrible oline.
Because hes just as terrible these days, get rid of him and we have money for a younger better oline.
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Old 01-06-2008, 01:17 AM   #12
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The schedule is brutal, but the division is weak - 9-7 may win the division, which gets a #4 seed in the playoffs.

We will say goodbye to several starters (Faneca, Mahan, Haggans, Foote, Townsend) and IMO will be a better team at the end of the year than the start of the year, unllike this year.

Ben needs to be and will be turned loose as Holmes + Miller have big years - the door was closed fort good on the old Steelers playbook of running the ball to protect the lead on that last possession with 3 minutes to go tonight
I'm still not in a position AT THIS POINT to say that 2 straight 10 win seasons is not going to happen, but however, crazier things have happend. In my opinion 11-5 to 12-4 looks realistic. (For the love of god please do not let the Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, and Pats games be losses)

Townsend I think stays. I think we say goodbye to Taylor, Mahan, Faneca, and possibly Haggans unless his salary cap hit is not strong.
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Old 01-06-2008, 01:22 AM   #13
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The schedule is brutal, but the division is weak - 9-7 may win the division, which gets a #4 seed in the playoffs.

We will say goodbye to several starters (Faneca, Mahan, Haggans, Foote, Townsend) and IMO will be a better team at the end of the year than the start of the year, unllike this year.

Ben needs to be and will be turned loose as Holmes + Miller have big years - the door was closed fort good on the old Steelers playbook of running the ball to protect the lead on that last possession with 3 minutes to go tonight
why are mahan, foote and townsend gone? no.. they arent super stars.. but they are just more guys who would need to be replaced.. 3 starters to boot. townsend didnt even have a bad year. faneca and haggans will probably be gone because they are free agents. but you dont cut guys out of the blue who arent even expensive to the team.
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how is that not a step back? he was the best player on a terrible oline.
I even doubt that.

Towards the latter half of the year, I was seen Fanaca getting blown up more then Simmons OR Colon.

With Starks AND Trey showing some nice play at LT... that leaves Fanaca and Mahan as the worst two linemen.

The worst of a bad line.

Sorry. His reputation is pushing him a long way right now. He is the next Joey Porter. Watch what happens next year.
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I'm still not in a position AT THIS POINT to say that 2 straight 10 win seasons is not going to happen, but however, crazier things have happend. In my opinion 11-5 to 12-4 looks realistic. (For the love of god please do not let the Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, and Pats games be losses)

Townsend I think stays. I think we say goodbye to Taylor, Mahan, Faneca, and possibly Haggans unless his salary cap hit is not strong.
why the hell would we get rid of our #1 cb, who we just signed to an extension that ended up being pretty favorable for the steelers organization?
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I'm still not in a position AT THIS POINT to say that 2 straight 10 win seasons is not going to happen, but however, crazier things have happend. In my opinion 11-5 to 12-4 looks realistic. (For the love of god please do not let the Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, and Pats games be losses)

Townsend I think stays. I think we say goodbye to Taylor, Mahan, Faneca, and possibly Haggans unless his salary cap hit is not strong.
Taylor (?) - I thought Ike had a good year not to mention a contract with several years to run - you think McFadden bumps Ike?

Woodley's play tonight sealed the deal for me that he bumps Haggans
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Yeah.... I don't see that happening. I think he must have thougth about someone else.
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if we dont improve our oline then it will be a decline, b/c ben will get killed next year without a good oline. he cant be running on every play and not get some kind of injury.
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why are mahan, foote and townsend gone? no.. they arent super stars.. but they are just more guys who would need to be replaced.. 3 starters to boot. townsend didnt even have a bad year. faneca and haggans will probably be gone because they are free agents. but you dont cut guys out of the blue who arent even expensive to the team.
Mahan was overpowered at C all year - Ed.B. of the P-G thinks the Steelers look elsewhere for C next year (move Simmons or FA - I think a #`1 draft choice also goes at LG - the wildcard is if Marvel Smith is done)

Interior run D was terrible the second half of the season - I think #1 pick Timmons is paid too much to play only ST and gets an ILB slot - it will not be Farrior's

Townsend did not have a bad year but he is old and I saw a lot of McFadden on the field tonight - IMO McFadden takes over next year
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Mahan was overpowered at C all year - Ed.B. of the P-G thinks the Steelers look elsewhere for C next year (move Simmons or FA - I think a #`1 draft choice also goes at LG - the wildcard is if Marvel Smith is done)

Interior run D was terrible the second half of the season - I think #1 pick Timmons is paid too much to play only ST and gets an ILB slot - it will not be Farrior's

Townsend did not have a bad year but he is old and I saw a lot of McFadden on the field tonight - IMO McFadden takes over next year
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