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Old 01-06-2008, 07:14 PM   #1
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Default For the LAST time, Bruce Arians is NOT THE PROBLEM!

Jesus, people, read more or study up on the game or something! Arians called a brilliant game last night, and if you can't recognize, you don't understand the game of football. The first drive was thing of beauty. They marched right down the field and scored. That set the pace for a clinic on offensive play calling.

Arians ran Ben out of the pocket on boots and waggles. The Steelers ran sprint draws and screen plays. There were 3 step slant plays mixed in with the usual 7 step crossing patterns. They ran out of passing formations and threw out of running formations. The whole play book was open last night, and, had the Steelers executed the plays as they were called, they'd have had a convincing win.

I said this once, and I'll say it again. The 3rd and 7 when Ben ran a boot left was a good play. Tomlin called it (or at least approved it). They worked on it all week, and the Jags had a favorable defense, so the Steelers ran the play. Trai Essex admitted after the game that he was confused about his assignment and he missed the key block.

If you want to pin the whole game on one play, that's fine. But it was Essex that effed up, not Arians.
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Old 01-06-2008, 07:21 PM   #2
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Default Re: For the LAST time, Bruce Arians is NOT THE PROBLEM!

I AGREE REVS......myself and a few others here often suggested more 3 step drops, slants,and designed roll outs. minus the 3 picks,which i'm pretty sure none were designed to go to the defenders..., ben had a heck of a game ! the jags never stopped the steeler drives, the steelers,stopped the steeler drives. what was bens completion % ??? about 69% ???
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Default Re: For the LAST time, Bruce Arians is NOT THE PROBLEM!

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Jesus, people, read more or study up on the game or something! Arians called a brilliant game last night, and if you can't recognize, you don't understand the game of football. The first drive was thing of beauty. They marched right down the field and scored. That set the pace for a clinic on offensive play calling.

Arians ran Ben out of the pocket on boots and waggles. The Steelers ran sprint draws and screen plays. There were 3 step slant plays mixed in with the usual 7 step crossing patterns. They ran out of passing formations and threw out of running formations. The whole play book was open last night, and, had the Steelers executed the plays as they were called, they'd have had a convincing win.

I said this once, and I'll say it again. The 3rd and 7 when Ben ran a boot left was a good play. Tomlin called it (or at least approved it). They worked on it all week, and the Jags had a favorable defense, so the Steelers ran the play. Trai Essex admitted after the game that he was confused about his assignment and he missed the key block.

If you want to pin the whole game on one play, that's fine. But it was Essex that effed up, not Arians.
Rev - might you at least consider giving it a rest about about anyone who criticizes Arians not understanding the game of football?

Madden called him out repeatedly for the playcalling last night - Cowher questioned the 3rd and 7 call on CBS today - are you saying Madden and Cowher do not know anything about football?

Every play looks good on paper - had they run that bootleg successfully for at least 5 yards in a game all season? Not quite the same as breaking it big in practice.

I liked the playcalling scheme last night but it was not a flawless game and whoever schemed the last possession up 29-28 had a brain cramp

All hail Bruce Arians
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sorry Rev, but unfortunately that's not gonna shut up some fans. some of them actually think firing arians is the solution, I guess they think they an do a better job.

and like I said before, they must be new to the steelers not to remember much worse coordinators than Bruce.

some fans just want all at the same time but the simple reality is that it ain't gonna happen. you want a perfect team, jump on the pats bandwagon, it's still pretty early. good luck living with the * though

Arians is a fine O coodinator, he's not the best, but he could coach most teams

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You're wasting your time and your bandwidth, rev. Those who don't like Arians are going to bash him no matter what facts you put in front of them.
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Default Re: For the LAST time, Bruce Arians is NOT THE PROBLEM!

I'm not sold on Arians yet.

I DO NOT like pass plays in a 2nd or 3rd and goal from the 1 or 2 yard line. WE SHOULD be able to get a good push off the snap and get those 1 or 2 yards. They called those stupid pass plays more than a few times this season.

Anyone here remember that play where they had Hines come across for a hand off and try to score?? The whole freaking world saw it coming and the play failed.

I do not think he's incompetent but I'm not completely sold on him yet.
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Jesus, people, read more or study up on the game or something! Arians called a brilliant game last night, and if you can't recognize, you don't understand the game of football. The first drive was thing of beauty. They marched right down the field and scored. That set the pace for a clinic on offensive play calling.

Arians ran Ben out of the pocket on boots and waggles. The Steelers ran sprint draws and screen plays. There were 3 step slant plays mixed in with the usual 7 step crossing patterns. They ran out of passing formations and threw out of running formations. The whole play book was open last night, and, had the Steelers executed the plays as they were called, they'd have had a convincing win.

I said this once, and I'll say it again. The 3rd and 7 when Ben ran a boot left was a good play. Tomlin called it (or at least approved it). They worked on it all week, and the Jags had a favorable defense, so the Steelers ran the play. Trai Essex admitted after the game that he was confused about his assignment and he missed the key block.

If you want to pin the whole game on one play, that's fine. But it was Essex that effed up, not Arians.
I agree that Arians is not the problem. I still don't like the call on 3rd and 6, but I do not have a problem with Arians as a whole.
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Rev - might you at least consider giving it a rest about about anyone who criticizes Arians not understanding the game of football?

Madden called him out repeatedly for the playcalling last night - Cowher questioned the 3rd and 7 call on CBS today - are you saying Madden and Cowher do not know anything about football?

Every play looks good on paper - had they run that bootleg successfully for at least 5 yards in a game all season? Not quite the same as breaking it big in practice.

I liked the playcalling scheme last night but it was not a flawless game and whoever schemed the last possession up 29-28 had a brain cramp

All hail Bruce Arians
Did Madden and Cowher make their calls AFTER the press conference, when all was revealed?

Of course not. Look, dude, at the risk of you knee-jerking and putting me on ignore again, you are just wrong. I know it sucks to be wrong, but you're wrong. Unless you are saying that Trai Essex was not at fault on his missed block (that he admitted to after the game) or you are saying that Tomlin did not actually call the play (and he admitted he did after the game), or that the Steelers didn't work on that play all week looking for that defensive set (Again, Tomlin said as much)then you are wrong.

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sorry Rev, but unfortunately that's not gonna shut up some fans. some of them actually think firing arians is the solution, I guess they think they an do a better job.

and like I said before, they must be new to the steelers not to remember much worse coordinators than Bruce.

some fans just want all at the same time but the simple reality is that it ain't gonna happen. you want a perfect team, jump on the pats bandwagon, it's still pretty early. good luck living with the * though

Arians is a fine O coodinator, he's not the best, but he could coach most teams
I agree Duke - 100%. When the D has a bad game due to lack of execution, Lebeau gets shellacked. When the O doesn't execute a play properly, Arians is the scapegoat du jour. Both Ben and Tomlin said in their post-game comments that the play in question was the correct call due to what they both saw on the field at that moment, and that's all the confirmation I need. They are the professionals, not us.
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Whether Tomlin or Arians called that play, I still think that 3rd down call was horrible. The Steelers we getting no where with the run all game. Hines and Miller were catching everything thrown their way and Ben was on fire in the second half. If the steelers were 3rd and 3 fine, but that's a very low percentage play for 3rd and 6 against a strong defensive team.

As for Arians, I don't really mind him overall. I do hate those wr screens, though. I don't think they fit our wrs at all. And I really miss the days of a big back, nothing Arians can do about that though.
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