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Old 01-11-2008, 10:30 AM   #1
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Default A problem nobody is talking about.

It seems to me all of the attention is being placed on the ST, Dline and OLine. FOR GOOD REASON! As we all know.

But what I have not heard is how bad Tyrone Cater played/is. He looked like he was playin Pop Warner ball. This guy does not have what it take to play at the NFL level esp not in our scheme.

On the swing pass to Drew he was beat even though he had the angle and looked bad, really bad. And on the 4th and 2 he waited for Garrard to get to him instead of running to meet him in the hole and smack the daylights out of him. Then when Garrard did get there Carter was given his jock by a QB and proceed to get "patted down" by Carter for another 10-15 yards.

Damn does this guy need to get off the field. I thought Id never long for the "Clark" days...
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:34 AM   #2
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Default Re: A problem nobody is talikng about.

back ups generally arent as good as starters.

since that is a widely accepted belief and usually accepted as truth nobody is really gonna talk about carter as a glaring problem for our team.

if we couldve afforded to keep chris hope as our back up, im sure we wouldve.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:37 AM   #3
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Everyone I have talked to thought Carter played fantastic. I thought he played average, that is good for a back up. We missed Ryan Clark more than most people think.
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Default Re: A problem nobody is talikng about.

I know he's a back up..all team have to use them at some points. They need to set up and fill in. that is their job. Period.

He did anything but.
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Im sure he did some good things away from the play and in some coverages..the one on one plays I talked about he looked awful and both were HUGE plays.
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Default Re: A problem nobody is talikng about.

Carter was the #4 safety behind Troy, Clark & Smith at the start of the season.

I agree Carter was exposed in the Jax game but the Steelers were pretty much out of alternatives to starting a career backup.

Assuming Clark recovers and Smith matures IMO Carter will not be on the field next year anywhere near as much as he was during the past 6 weeks.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:16 AM   #7
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he looked pretty slow in that game.. he did play better in prior games, and hasnt been burned deep like anthony smith has. ryan clark is better than both of them and has already proven that he is. i just hope he is healthy. carter and smith still make us maybe the deepest at the safety position in the league.
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It seems to me all of the attention is being placed on the ST, Dline and OLine. FOR GOOD REASON! As we all know.

But what I have not heard is how bad Tyrone Cater played/is. He looked like he was playin Pop Warner ball. This guy does not have what it take to play at the NFL level esp not in our scheme.

On the swing pass to Drew he was beat even though he had the angle and looked bad, really bad. And on the 4th and 2 he waited for Garrard to get to him instead of running to meet him in the hole and smack the daylights out of him. Then when Garrard did get there Carter was given his jock by a QB and proceed to get "patted down" by Carter for another 10-15 yards.

Damn does this guy need to get off the field. I thought Id never long for the "Clark" days...
that's why he isn't a starter. he is a benchwarmer starting because of an injury. nobody is talking about because he isn't going to be starting next season unless the injury hits again. i will say one thing for carter. it was better having him in there than smith. at least he remains disciplined in coverage.
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I criticized Carter right after the game, even moreso than the refs

He couldn't push Jones-Drew out of bounds on the swing pass and couldn't tackle Garrard on the draw

Benching Smith for Carter was a HUGE mistake by Tomlin
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Default Re: A problem nobody is talking about.

It's like the lesser of 2 evils...Smith gets beat deap, Carter is slow and not a very good athlete. Against the Jags, I think Smith's strengths would have been better.

And guys I understand he is a starter but there is a level of play you need to adhere to don't you think?
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