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Old 01-11-2008, 12:01 PM   #11
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Default Re: A problem nobody is talikng about.

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back ups generally arent as good as starters.

since that is a widely accepted belief and usually accepted as truth nobody is really gonna talk about carter as a glaring problem for our team.

if we couldve afforded to keep chris hope as our back up, im sure we wouldve.
pretty much sums it up

ya he made a couple bad plays but we dont need to focus on it now that we are in the offseason
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:27 PM   #12
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Default Re: A problem nobody is talking about.

Carter was primarily supposed to be on the field in nickel and dime siitutations, and his responsibilities are less than that of a starting safety. He played well for awhile, but, most likely, teams saw tendencies on film and expoited them.
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:41 PM   #13
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carter is a good tackler and good player but not for a good coverage on a big wide receiver.ryan clark is the starter at free safety but draft in the 2,3 or 4 round in the draft a big safety will be good (josh barrett,thomas decoud,craig steltz,jamar adams)
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:42 PM   #14
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carter is a good tackler and good player
LMAO

Carter is NOT a good tackler at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:49 PM   #15
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I criticized Carter right after the game, even moreso than the refs

He couldn't push Jones-Drew out of bounds on the swing pass and couldn't tackle Garrard on the draw

Benching Smith for Carter was a HUGE mistake by Tomlin
After the New England trash talking, then getting toasted in the New England game, and then getting burned on another long pass in the first Jax game the next weekend (and those were the screwups we knew about) I respectfully disagree - Smith played himself out of a starter's slot.
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the steeler's big problem isn't to tackling.only one game this season they play very bad(vs jaguars on season) the problem is to put pressure on quaterback to force bad passes
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After the New England trash talking, then getting toasted in the New England game, and then getting burned on another long pass in the first Jax game the next weekend (and those were the screwups we knew about) I respectfully disagree - Smith played himself out of a starter's slot.
As someone stated earlier, the Jags strength is running the ball not passing deep. Smith is more of a pure SS rather than FS meaning he is better at attacking a play. Smith is much faster and a way better tackler than Carter. I could see benching Smith if we were playing NE or Indy but against a running team without much of a deep threat, Smith should have started

Just look at the 2 key plays:

(1) Jones-Drew swing pass for a TD - Smith (or any capable tackler) would have easily knocked JD out at the 10 yd line

(2) Garrard 4th and 2 draw play - Smith would have an open shot on Garrard . He might have forced Garrard to fumble but he would have stopped Garrard for a 5-8 yd gain instead of 30 something or whatever it was
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I guess you didnt watch the second half of the season because that is precisely what their problem was (along with qb pressure)
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It's like the lesser of 2 evils...Smith gets beat deap, Carter is slow and not a very good athlete. Against the Jags, I think Smith's strengths would have been better.

And guys I understand he is a starter but there is a level of play you need to adhere to don't you think?
ya i agree anthony may have done a little better against the jags but idk... tyrone had some great games at SS... it looked like he played out of position in the jax game..
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ya i agree anthony may have done a little better against the jags but idk... tyrone had some great games at SS... it looked like he played out of position in the jax game..

Did you guys see the first Jags game? Smith played like wet stinky poo (not the dry stuff) in that game. And overall, the D was better last week than in he first go-round with the Jags

We have more pressing needs than worrying about the 4th string Safety. Hell, if we could find another starting corner I?d be fine with getting rid of either (or both) Smith and Carter and letting Deshea be a backup Safety/Corner. I?d like a more physical starting corner, but I also like have Deshea around.
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