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Old 01-11-2008, 11:35 AM   #1
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Default QB Class of 2004 is proving to be pretty successful

no big news here, but still a good read, especially with big ben looking ahead to his next contract. this also goes along the lines that you really cant judge a draft class until after the 3rd year (something kirwan vehemently adheres to).

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After this past weekend of wild-card action, it's clear the QB Class of 2004 is officially a success.

If I told you four years ago that the money spent on the top three quarterbacks in the first round of the 2004 draft would guarantee that all would deliver a playoff win by their fourth season, most would agree it was money well spent.

Ben Roethlisberger won a Super Bowl in his second year, Eli Manning made the playoffs three years in a row and got his first postseason win Sunday, and Rivers wrapped it up his first playoff victory in two tries in the late game on Sunday.

Big Ben, Manning and Rivers are not finished products by any means, but the teams that drafted them are not afraid of the next contract; the future looks bright for the next 6-8 years for those three guys, barring injury, of course. They have already played in a combined 12 playoff games, and Rivers and Manning are guaranteed at least one more. Fourteen playoff games in four seasons is pretty darn good.

Take a look at their numbers over the first four years, including playoffs. They may not be the 1983 draft of Dan Marino, Jim Kelly and Kenny O'Brien, but they have a chance to do some great things, and none of them are a bust. Don't forget that Matt Schaub is also a member of the class of 2004.

The Class of 2004: Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning and Philip Rivers have a combined 7-5 record in the playoffs.

Three young QBs proving their worth
Ben Roethlisberger Eli Manning Philip Rivers
Att. 1,604 1,805 1,012
Comp. 1,026 987 611
TDs 96 77 45
INTs 65 64 47
Sacks 160 93 57
Playoff record 5-2 1-2 1-1

As the draft talks start up in earnest in the coming weeks, keep in mind the NFL is a quarterback-driven league. And if anyone in the draft looks at all like Roethlisberger, Manning or Rivers, a team has to take him and hope he delivers like these guys have so far: 218 touchdown passes in four years and a few postseason appearances before their rookie contract is up.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:48 AM   #2
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Big Ben is the real deal

Eli is pretty good but inconsistent

Rivers sucks big time IMO
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:18 PM   #3
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dont forget that j.p losman was drafted in 04 too....lol
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Default Re: QB Class of 2004 is proving to be pretty successful

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Big Ben is the real deal

Eli is pretty good but inconsistent

Rivers sucks big time IMO
As the saying goes, it is a marathon, not a sprint - Rivers was the flavorof the month as the best of the 2004 class as of November 2006.

At this stage of their pre-playoff 4th year careers, Elway had not yet engineered The Drive (while crashing in a 1984 home playoff loss to the Steelers) and Marino was at his peak with a SB and 2 AFC Championship appearances under his belt.

My point is the rankings of those QBs still requires a lot of future performances
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Default Re: QB Class of 2004 is proving to be pretty successful

WoW! to be honest i had a good feeling when the STEELERS! drafted Big Ben....(he was only known as Ben Roethlisberger)....i knew Maddox's days were numbered unforturenitly he got hurt and next thing you know we win a SuperBowl with an 11th pick overall!!!!!!......WoW! GOD! is a STEELERS! FAN!!......as far as this Class it's just AMAZING! and J.P. losman alnog with shuab i wonder if at one point all these QB's started a game at the same time.....yes! these guys are good and it's early in thier cereers....
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when pitt drafted ben i was like who the ---- is he???.. but i'm glad that they did draft him.. and i agree rivers is shitty.. he can't do anything right
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I cant stand Rivers, he is such a punk!
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Not to be nitpicky, but how does he not mention Elway in the class of '83?
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Default Re: QB Class of 2004 is proving to be pretty successful

This line is misleading:

"The Class of 2004: Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning and Philip Rivers have a combined 7-5 record in the playoffs..."

Take away Ben and that class is 2-3 in the playoffs.
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:52 PM   #10
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Default Re: QB Class of 2004 is proving to be pretty successful

....so much for not being nit picky.

oh well. the point still stands, just the same.
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