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Old 01-16-2008, 05:51 PM   #11
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Slap him with the Tag, he's exactly the reason the Franchise Tag was created. A player that is going to attempt to "blackmail" his team into over paying for his value because some Idiot in San Francisco paid a Gabillion Dollars to some under acheiving O-lineman from Seattle. The Tag was put in place exactly for this situation. I say use it. And then offer him "Realistic" money. If he holds out, so what, he gets another year older and in the 09 season, people won't be willing to put the money out that he Thinks he's worth right now.

Tag his ass...that's what I say.

Slap him with the tag?

Only if he was actually worth the 6 or 7 plus million he would get. He isn't ANYWHERE NEAR THAT WORTH NOW. The entire reason the Rooneys WONT pay him is because he has gone down in worth, and he thinks he has gone up. I say for that money, go trade a 2nd and 3rd round for another first round and pick up two first round OL.

Faneca simply is not worth it anymore. He blew too many blocks... and to many assignments.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:54 PM   #12
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Default Re: Franchise tag option for Faneca

NNNNOOOOOOOO.....that would be like 8-10 million, i would rather get 2 or three experienced players for that amount.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:59 PM   #13
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Slap him with the tag?

Only if he was actually worth the 6 or 7 plus million he would get. He isn't ANYWHERE NEAR THAT WORTH NOW. The entire reason the Rooneys WONT pay him is because he has gone down in worth, and he thinks he has gone up. I say for that money, go trade a 2nd and 3rd round for another first round and pick up two first round OL.

Faneca simply is not worth it anymore. He blew too many blocks... and to many assignments.
I agree, he isn't worth the money. If we tag him does he get that much money? I didn't realize that. My mistake. I figured it was a good way to "hold on" to him for another season and then negotiate a sensable contract with him.

He did blow a lot of blocks and had a few false starts this season that were mind boggling.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:14 PM   #14
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I agree, he isn't worth the money. If we tag him does he get that much money? I didn't realize that. My mistake. I figured it was a good way to "hold on" to him for another season and then negotiate a sensable contract with him.

He did blow a lot of blocks and had a few false starts this season that were mind boggling.

OK.... I see what you're saying. Tag him if we can for current or just above current salary. Yeah, that would have been nice. I would even take him back for that much. It would give us another year to rebuild our line.

Unfortunately, Tagging means you get the average of the top 5 salaries at that position, and I beleive Guards and Tackles are all included... so it is the top of all those... I don't really know the figures, but I think 19ward may be right at someplace between 8-10 million for a year.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:27 PM   #15
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Default Re: Franchise tag option for Faneca

I think his name will get him 8-10 million on the open market and well as a good signing bonus. I say offer him 8 million per year for 4 years and if he walks, go get a couple of good linemen for that money. Ben should be our number 1 priority.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:36 PM   #16
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OK.... I see what you're saying. Tag him if we can for current or just above current salary. Yeah, that would have been nice. I would even take him back for that much. It would give us another year to rebuild our line.

Unfortunately, Tagging means you get the average of the top 5 salaries at that position, and I beleive Guards and Tackles are all included... so it is the top of all those... I don't really know the figures, but I think 19ward may be right at someplace between 8-10 million for a year.
I think you're right. Unfortunately, the Franchise Tag is a bad move, especially in Faneca's case.

Let's take a look at this.

Why can't we resign Alan Faneca? Because he can get big money elsewhere in FA.

Why does he believe he can get big money in FA? Because sh*tty teams have TOTALLY inflated the market by dropping RIDICULOUS contracts on Offensive Linemen.

Why does that hurt doubly? Because those same overpaid Linemen are the ones who make up the Top 5 salaries. Which means Alan Faneca would get a contract that reflects the inflated market!

Its a vicious circle. The only benefit is you aren't stuck with him for more than a year... but he's stuck with you.

The fact that my head is spinning makes this so much easier to realize...

Get a long term deal done... or LET ALAN FANECA WALK
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:52 PM   #17
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Default Re: Franchise tag option for Faneca

It'll never happen. I don't want it to happen. I doubt he'd be happy here anymore. :(
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Default Re: Franchise tag option for Faneca

that is true that this past offseason the teams paying way way too much for avg players to humagous contracts.. like leonard davis with his 60 mill contract.. and then off subkext the 80 mill contract to clements from the 49er's... too much money
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dude with Free Agents getting so much money the only position we can franchise is K/P
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Default Re: Franchise tag option for Faneca

This is a bad idea for two reasons:
1) Faneca can't afford to stay here another year at any cost. If his skills erode as badly in '08 as they did in '07, he won't be able to get any kind of big money deal. The dude has only a few years left, and he needs to get phat while he still can. Somebody is willing to wildly overpay fro him, but this year might be it.
2) 9 million would be SO much better spent elsewhere. He's going to need replaced sooner or later, so definitely make it sooner.
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