manning vs. manning

***tony hipchest*** · 10-25-2005, 07:59 PM

peyton- 11td 5 int
eli- 12td 4 int (in one less game)

public perception will be that eli is doing better...... until you check their record. "why is peyton having a down year"?..... check their record. their eventual mnf matchup should be a good one. it looks like eli could eventually be come as important to the giants as peyton is to the colts. whoda thunk it?

Iron City Hangover · 10-25-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tony hipchest

peyton- 11td 5 int
eli- 12td 4 int (in one less game)

public perception will be that eli is doing better...... until you check their record. "why is peyton having a down year"?..... check their record. their eventual mnf matchup should be a good one. it looks like eli could eventually be come as important to the giants as peyton is to the colts. whoda thunk it?

A nice comparison would be the RB's...

Edge is having a better year than Tiki, which explains Peyton's numbers.

***tony hipchest*** · 10-25-2005, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron City Hangover

A nice comparison would be the RB's...

Edge is having a better year than Tiki, which explains Peyton's numbers.

exactly. but public perception will be that peyton is slipping and eli is the next coming. regardless of what the records of their team will be. peyton can go 16-0 and win the sb but if he has worse numbers than his brother everyone will say "yeah, but peyton dropped off"

***tony hipchest*** · 10-25-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron City Hangover

A nice comparison would be the RB's...

Edge is having a better year than Tiki, which explains Peyton's numbers.

kind of explains big bens gaudy numbers too. (win % and qb rating that is)

Iron City Hangover · 10-25-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tony hipchest

kind of explains big bens gaudy numbers too. (win % and qb rating that is)

With Bettis and Parker in the backfield, you can only throw the ball 7 times a game.

***tony hipchest*** · 10-25-2005, 09:13 PM

its like having barry and earl in the backfield. who would wanna throw??????

BlitzburghRockCity · 10-25-2005, 09:26 PM

Peyton has already established himself as the best in the league..down year or not. Eli is up and coming but he definately needs more help in the future to continue the ride.

Koopa · 10-25-2005, 09:36 PM

stat wise maybe it looks like peyton is having a down year but stats don't matter. eli is nowhere near the the qb peyton is right now. peyton rather hand off and get the win then throw he's a team player. eli is just a little whinny bitch and i hope he gets broken

Prosdo · 10-25-2005, 10:32 PM

In my opinion stats can be deceiving at times. Between the two I'd take Peyton. He is a sound QB and he has already proven himself.

Livinginthe past · 10-26-2005, 01:09 AM

This is an interesting debate - alot of people have christened Peyton the 'best QB in football' - I would have to assume on the basis of his amazing statistics - it surely cant be based on his ability to turn it on in the 'big game'.

Now that the gaudy numbers have vanished the same people who loved him for his statistical domination of the NFL are now telling us 'its all about the winning baby' - and point us in the direction of the Colts 7-0 record.

My honest opinion is that in a big game where I needed my QB to perform in a one off clutch situation I would take Jake Delhomme over Peyton - he has shown more in the tight SB loss to the Patriots than Peyton has ever shown in a post-season match up against us.

I dont dislike Peyton - he has great pass mechanics for sure...but then I would take Montana over Marino everytime aswell.

As far as Eli goes he has shown some nice ability in the clutch this year and the Giants look a decent offensive unit - I would say they have faced 3 quality opponents this year - SD, Dallas and Denver - the Giants have won one of these games so that probably puts these performances into context.

NM

10-25-2005, 07:59 PM	#1
*tony hipchest* IRONMAN a.k.a. Tony Stark Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Give me back my game... Posts: 34,340 Member Number: 658 Thanks: 184 Thanked 230 Times in 164 Posts	manning vs. manning peyton- 11td 5 int eli- 12td 4 int (in one less game) public perception will be that eli is doing better...... until you check their record. "why is peyton having a down year"?..... check their record. their eventual mnf matchup should be a good one. it looks like eli could eventually be come as important to the giants as peyton is to the colts. whoda thunk it?

10-25-2005, 09:13 PM	#6
*tony hipchest* IRONMAN a.k.a. Tony Stark Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Give me back my game... Posts: 34,340 Member Number: 658 Thanks: 184 Thanked 230 Times in 164 Posts	Re: manning vs. manning its like having barry and earl in the backfield. who would wanna throw??????

10-25-2005, 09:26 PM	#7
BlitzburghRockCity Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Central PA. Posts: 8,144 Gender: Male Member Number: 70 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: manning vs. manning Peyton has already established himself as the best in the league..down year or not. Eli is up and coming but he definately needs more help in the future to continue the ride.

10-25-2005, 09:36 PM	#8
Koopa Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Third Coast Born, That Mean I'm Texas Raised Posts: 3,439 Gender: Male Member Number: 508 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: manning vs. manning stat wise maybe it looks like peyton is having a down year but stats don't matter. eli is nowhere near the the qb peyton is right now. peyton rather hand off and get the win then throw he's a team player. eli is just a little whinny bitch and i hope he gets broken

10-25-2005, 10:32 PM	#9
Prosdo Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,326 Gender: Female Member Number: 86 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: manning vs. manning In my opinion stats can be deceiving at times. Between the two I'd take Peyton. He is a sound QB and he has already proven himself.

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10-26-2005, 01:09 AM	#10
Livinginthe past Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Crushing the AFCE...annually Posts: 7,520 Member Number: 478 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: manning vs. manning This is an interesting debate - alot of people have christened Peyton the 'best QB in football' - I would have to assume on the basis of his amazing statistics - it surely cant be based on his ability to turn it on in the 'big game'. Now that the gaudy numbers have vanished the same people who loved him for his statistical domination of the NFL are now telling us 'its all about the winning baby' - and point us in the direction of the Colts 7-0 record. My honest opinion is that in a big game where I needed my QB to perform in a one off clutch situation I would take Jake Delhomme over Peyton - he has shown more in the tight SB loss to the Patriots than Peyton has ever shown in a post-season match up against us. I dont dislike Peyton - he has great pass mechanics for sure...but then I would take Montana over Marino everytime aswell. As far as Eli goes he has shown some nice ability in the clutch this year and the Giants look a decent offensive unit - I would say they have faced 3 quality opponents this year - SD, Dallas and Denver - the Giants have won one of these games so that probably puts these performances into context. NM __________________ They've been great for a while now, three Super Bowls' worth of great. But only this season have the New England Patriots become The Show, the must-see team of stars, pretty boys and reformed bad boys. Suddenly, the Patriots are not simply great; they're compelling, fascinating, appearing to be almighty and a touch lawless. The Patriots didn't bother with swagger to start this NFL season; they went straight to defiant. Either you're one of them or you're about to get crushed.

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