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Old 01-28-2008, 12:44 AM   #11
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Put the Pats* in the 1970s, and they get smoked by the Steelers, Cowboys and Raiders. Hell, even the Vikings and Rams would kick their asses all over the field.

Not impressed.

Screw Boston.
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:59 AM   #12
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Go Giants so I don't have to hear about this crap anymore...I am sick of this crap
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Old 01-28-2008, 04:38 AM   #13
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It would be hard to beat the steelers of the 70's the way they won there supebowls back to back.
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Old 01-28-2008, 09:39 AM   #14
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Even though they are a dynasty, I have no respect for the Pats, they are a classless organization with a bunch a whiny little babys. I truely hope the Giants bury tom brady and crew in the desert. It seems over the last few years brady has become more and more of a shit-talker on the field. Meanwhile Big Ben goes out takes a beating play tough and doesnt say much on the field and lets his play do the talking. As far as I'm concerned, The pats Can't Touch the SUPER STEELERS !!!!!!!!!
Let me first state that I am a Steelers fan...always have been always will be. That does not cloud my opinion or judgement. To compare Ben and Brady is laughable. Brady is 4x the QB Roethlisberger is. To take a pay cut or to forfeit a raise to make the team better? Maybe I don't watch enough football (which I highly doubt), but the only time I saw Brady talk shit was to Anthony Smith. And Smith brought that upon himself. And since when is talking shit a bad thing? When you can back it up? Brady can back it up. And IMO, Brady will go down as the greatest QB to ever play when he's done.

As far as the debate between the Steelers of the 70's and the Pats of the new millenium....I think that the Steelers are the better team. They put their team together from scratch in '69 when Noll took over. They did it through the draft. They didn't have free agency at their disposal like the game does today. And how many HOF players are on the Pats right now...? Brady, Moss and that's all I can conceivably think of. Steelers of the 70's boasts Bradshaw, Harris, Webster, Swann, Stallworth, Greene, Ham, Lambert and Blount. It's highly doubtful that NE will come up with half as many. And BTW, Seau doesn't count as he was a HOF'er before coming to NE.
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Let me first state that I am a Steelers fan...always have been always will be. That does not cloud my opinion or judgement. To compare Ben and Brady is laughable. Brady is 4x the QB Roethlisberger is. To take a pay cut or to forfeit a raise to make the team better? Maybe I don't watch enough football (which I highly doubt), but the only time I saw Brady talk shit was to Anthony Smith. And Smith brought that upon himself. And since when is talking shit a bad thing? When you can back it up? Brady can back it up. And IMO, Brady will go down as the greatest QB to ever play when he's done. .
Agree with everything you said about Brady. I can't stand the Patriots either, but Brady is clearly the best in football right now.

As far as the debate between the Steelers of the 70's and the Pats of the new millenium....I think that the Steelers are the better team. They put their team together from scratch in '69 when Noll took over. They did it through the draft. They didn't have free agency at their disposal like the game does today. And how many HOF players are on the Pats right now...? Brady, Moss and that's all I can conceivably think of. Steelers of the 70's boasts Bradshaw, Harris, Webster, Swann, Stallworth, Greene, Ham, Lambert and Blount. It's highly doubtful that NE will come up with half as many. And BTW, Seau doesn't count as he was a HOF'er before coming to NE.

The difference between the two teams is that the era's have made them different. If they win, then it's 4 in 7...we had 4 in 6 so the accomplishment will be comparable. The difference is that the 70's Steelers did it with the same core of guys, while the Patriots only have 4 guys on the entire team that will have 4 rings if they win and a lot fewer HOF'ers. Free agency changed that team so much over the past 7 years, where the Steelers were still recognizable from the 1974-75 team through the 1979-80 team where their run ended. You are right about Seau, he was a HOF'er before he ever got to NE. To me, the franchise may have had a ton of success, but since their team has changed so much over the last 7 years, I don't know if you can call the team a dynasty in the truest sense of the word. That isn't to diminish what they have accomplished in the past 7 years, because it is phenomenal.

I would love to see a game played between the 2007 Patriots and the 1978 Steelers.
All things being equal....nutrition, training, etc....it would be a heck of a game.
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All things being equal....nutrition, training, etc....it would be a heck of a game.
Under which set of rules? The rules of '78 or the glorified flag football rules of '07?
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Under which set of rules? The rules of '78 or the glorified flag football rules of '07?
I'd be interested in seeing two different games...one played with the 1978 rules and one played under current rules. Now I am playing the ultimate Fantasy Football game.
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The game in the 70's was a much harder played game. Today's game is built for the offense to score. Hell its one reason in the 70's the "new" passing interference call was made and they called it the "Mel Blount" rule because he mauled recievers down the field and noone could catch anything thrown his way.

Football today is watered down and made easier to score TD's. Defense has it way harder on them now with so many types on new penalties able to be called against them and continue to move the chains for offenses.

That and I hate the Patriots with a passion!
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I stopped reading Cook's article when he mentioned the "overblown" Spygate scandal.
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