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Old 02-03-2008, 09:26 AM   #61
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I agree...but I don't think Butkus had half the talent in playing in front of him that Lambert did. All I'd have to argue about is what could Lambert do if he was on the Bears' teams that Butkus was on? That's all. My God man, the Steel Curtain IMO was the greatest DL ever!!!
That's a good point, but the Bears did have some good d-linemen back in Butkus' day, Doug Atkins comes to mind.

I think both were so great that they trancended their circumstances. Remember Lambert still played at a high level after Joe Green's play started slipping and even after he retired. Those last few years before the turf toe took him down he was practically a one man gang on defense.

It's a coin flip if you ask me.
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Old 02-03-2008, 07:49 PM   #62
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look hines you signed your contract a few years ago maybe your not happy with it now keep your mouth shut it's not bens fault the team only addressed the defense concerns blame the coach this team needs a big receiver to help the offense.
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:58 AM   #63
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Not to beat a dead horse but I just came across an article by Mike Bires that perfectly sums up the Ben- Hines misunderstanding in one sentence. To wit ; " It breaks down like this: Ben says a lot of dumb things. Hines takes everything as a personal affront."

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Old 02-06-2008, 06:01 AM   #64
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Not to beat a dead horse but I just came across an article by Mike Bires that perfectly sums up the Ben- Hines misunderstanding in one sentence. To wit ; " It breaks down like this: Ben says a lot of dumb things. Hines takes everything as a personal affront."

I'd agree with that...
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:47 AM   #65
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Yeah, I think a lot of people, including Ben, think effective tall receivers grow on trees. Think about it, there are less than a a handfull of recievers that are legitimately above 6 feet and are effective. You can have tall guys all they long. Big targets don't equal results.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:51 AM   #66
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well any targets don't equal results if the o-line have another yr like they did this past yr..
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How about...Just Get a SOLID # THREE Receiver Please...

I don't care if he's 5ft effing tall, just get me a guy that can get open on 3rd down and make catches. Holmes and Ward are awesome, Miller is great for a TE, we just need that Solid # 3 to be GREAT!
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Yeah, I think a lot of people, including Ben, think effective tall receivers grow on trees. Think about it, there are less than a a handfull of recievers that are legitimately above 6 feet and are effective. You can have tall guys all they long. Big targets don't equal results.
Obviously these people have forgotten about people like Art Monk. Ben, hopefully, will one day it's not the size of the dog in the fight - but the fight in the dog.
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Ben, hopefully, will one day it's not the size of the dog in the fight - but the fight in the dog.
He has been throwing to and won a Super Bowl with one of those 'dogs' (86) since he's entered the league, not sure how much more blatantly obvious it can be made to him.
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He has been throwing to and won a Super Bowl with one of those 'dogs' (86) since he's entered the league, not sure how much more blatantly obvious it can be made to him.
Yeah well I guess sometimes it takes a non-family member to point it out.
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