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Old 03-13-2008, 01:20 PM   #1
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Default Goodbye 2011 season?

After years of labor peace things are going to get ugly in the NFL regarding labor issues.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...t&lid=tab5pos3

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Doty [judge who oversees labor issues between NFL and players] calls these get-togethers "Minnesota Nice," and he has followed the practice throughout a distinguished judicial career. They often result in the settlement of irreconcilable disputes. But the NFL executives and lawyers think they were slighted by not being invited into the gathering, and they weren't amused. They launched a scathing and personal attack on Doty and demanded an end to his long-standing role as the arbiter of disputes between the players and the owners.
You would think among highly educated and successful people these sorts of personal issues would not be a factor, but human nature says they almost always are.

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And the players went one step further: They filed their own legal action accusing the owners of a "collusion conspiracy" designed to hold down bonuses and salaries.
Tit for tat.

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The first step is to opt out of the contract, a move the owners must and probably will make between now and November. Under the terms of the player-owner agreement, the owners' termination of the contract will trigger two more years of salary-cap football, then the 2010 season will be played without a cap on salaries. After the 2010 season and the college draft in spring 2011, the players and owners will be at a critical crossroads.
Lock upall your free agents in a bag and hope, hope and hope.


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Now, using their scorn for his Vick decision as a platform, the owners want Doty to remove himself from his continuing supervision of these disputes, opening the door to access to a new judge when the more serious battles begin over the lockout. The players want Doty to remain in his supervisory role over player-owner disputes. The union calls his role one of the "core principles" of the agreement.
Wwwwwhy can't we all just get along?

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Upshaw said, "[The owners] just don't like what they agreed to in March of 2006."
I think Upshaw is fuming from being called Paul Tagliabue's patsy all those years. Tagliabue got to ride off into the sunset having "settled " one more labor dispute; now, Upshaw wants to go out proving he can stand up to Goodell and the Owners.

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With the two recently filed legal actions, there is no longer any doubt that the owners and players are on a collision course. Instead of prospering together, they will be meeting each other in court and tossing around words such as "collusion" and "decertification" and "lockout." Unless something unexpected happens, the 2011 season is in serious jeopardy.

Bring on the CFL.

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Old 03-13-2008, 01:56 PM   #2
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Sounds like a bunch of s@#t. Hopefully they will work something out.
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Old 03-13-2008, 02:16 PM   #3
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Default Re: Goodbye 2011 season?

Oh well. It was just a matter of time before this deal blew up in everyone's face.
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Old 03-13-2008, 02:24 PM   #4
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Default Re: Goodbye 2011 season?

Everything about football has become a business.

If a major strike/lockout is necessary for BOTH OWNERS AND PLAYERS to come to grips with the fact that the whole thing is overblown, then I am all for it.

I am all for lesser TV revenues, lesser salaries, etc. etc.

Hopefully in the end, our multimillion dollar cry-baby players and billion dollar crybaby owners will realize that the multi hundred and multi thousand dollar fans see them all as spoiled children. Then again, maybe there is a Santa Claus as well.
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Everything about football has become a business.

If a major strike/lockout is necessary for BOTH OWNERS AND PLAYERS to come to grips with the fact that the whole thing is overblown, then I am all for it.

I am all for lesser TV revenues, lesser salaries, etc. etc.

Hopefully in the end, our multimillion dollar cry-baby players and billion dollar crybaby owners will realize that the multi hundred and multi thousand dollar fans see them all as spoiled children. Then again, maybe there is a Santa Claus as well.

Bring on the Scabs......
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Default Re: Goodbye 2011 season?

This actually plays into the current deals being signed this year, getting players on paper beyond the 2011 fiasco.

By the way, I don't care if my uncle Joe Schlump the Midget is in the Black and Gold, I'll be rooting for my Steelers.

The NFL will not allow what happened to the NHL happen to it. If I'm wrong, remind me in 3 years from now.
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Well we also have Mark Cubans league to look forward to.
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Cuban needs to stay focused on buying the Pirates.
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Bring on the Scabs......
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I am all for lesser TV revenues, lesser salaries, etc. etc.

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so anhauser busch, cialis, viagra, charmin should all get dirt cheap advertizing rates to use grown men who sacrifice their bodies, to pimp their products?

are we gonna take money out of the atheletes hands so a major multi billion dollar corporation like AT&T or sprint can increase their profit margins even more?

if you take money out of the atheletes hands, it just goes back into wealthy shareholders hands.
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