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Old 03-16-2008, 10:40 AM   #21
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then i guess going to the pro-bowl makes him not a pro-bowl center
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Old 03-16-2008, 10:54 AM   #22
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then i guess going to the pro-bowl makes him not a pro-bowl center
If he ever went to the Pro Bowl, he went as a spectator. Did you really think I'd make a statement like that without doing my homework first? Here are all the centers who have gone to Hawaii since Hartwig was a 6th round pick in '02:

2002 Pro Bowl Centers

Olin Kreutz

Kevin Mawae

Jeremy Newberry

Barret Robbins

Damien Woody

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...02/probowl.htm

2003 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Mike Flanagan

Olin Kreutz

Kevin Mawae

Tom Nalen

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...03/probowl.htm

2004 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Jeff Hartings

Olin Kreutz

Kevin Mawae

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...04/probowl.htm

2005 Pro Bowl Centers

LeCharles Bentley

Jeff Hartings

Olin Kreutz

Jeff Saturday

Robbie Tobeck

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...05/probowl.htm

2006 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Andre Gurode

Nick Hardwick

Olin Kreutz

Jeff Saturday

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...06/probowl.htm

2007 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Andre Gurode

Dan Koppen

Jeff Saturday

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...07/probowl.htm

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Old 03-16-2008, 11:41 AM   #23
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Nope. Not a pro-boler.

However, the guy IS a SOLID center. A GREAT upgrade over last year. That gives us flexibility in Mahan moving to his original position, or being a backup. That means we draft two OL this year in the first day, and we will be SOLID at the line, with depth.

I would be happy with that.
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Old 03-16-2008, 11:52 AM   #24
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If he ever went to the Pro Bowl, he went as a spectator. Did you really think I'd make a statement like that without doing my homework first? Here are all the centers who have gone to Hawaii since Hartwig was a 6th round pick in '02:

2002 Pro Bowl Centers

Olin Kreutz

Kevin Mawae

Jeremy Newberry

Barret Robbins

Damien Woody

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...02/probowl.htm

2003 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Mike Flanagan

Olin Kreutz

Kevin Mawae

Tom Nalen

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...03/probowl.htm

2004 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Jeff Hartings

Olin Kreutz

Kevin Mawae

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...04/probowl.htm

2005 Pro Bowl Centers

LeCharles Bentley

Jeff Hartings

Olin Kreutz

Jeff Saturday

Robbie Tobeck

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...05/probowl.htm

2006 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Andre Gurode

Nick Hardwick

Olin Kreutz

Jeff Saturday

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...06/probowl.htm

2007 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Andre Gurode

Dan Koppen

Jeff Saturday

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...07/probowl.htm
lol Gurode made it hes horrible
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Old 03-16-2008, 12:06 PM   #25
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I think that some people may have thought hardwig was nick hardwick from SD when they had the pro bowl comment.

As far as Nickey goes... I don't understand how people don't see it as a problem that he started a fight with the francise QB. It worse than Anthony Smith. Some people liked Anthony Smith's aggressiveness in practice... really?

Instead of just letting that aggressiveness consume his game maybe he should have learned a little discipline. You know, start with not getting into extra curricular B.S. after the play and end at not getting cooked deep.

So maybe being willing to mix it up with their teammates in training camp is a quality some people look for in the position, but I'd rather (and I've said it before) not have a bull in a china shop at FS.

We should be passing on Nickey, as well.

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Nickey, who primarily plays special teams and played at Ohio State, had knocked down receiver Joel Filani earlier when the rookie ran the wrong route, a post when the defense was defending against the post.

Trainers helped Filani to the side, then Nickey broke up the pass by taking receiver Courtney Roby to the ground on the very next play by putting his right arm around Roby’s neck in a chokehold move. Young, who had thrown the pass, erupted.

He yelled at Nickey and asked him what he was doing, telling him to quit that stuff. Young ran over as Roby stayed on the ground. Nickey put his right hand on Young’s chest before the quarterback shoved back and took a swing at the safety.
and.. AFTER the fact... Nickey says it would have been a "good" hit on Sunday... but also admits it wasn't a clean hit... So for Nickey... who only makes like 10 hits a season.. a good hit is a dirty hit?

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http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/20080315/

For a guy who had 8 tackles last year? Give me a freakin' break.
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As far as Nickey goes... I don't understand how people don't see it as a problem that he started a fight with the francise QB. It worse than Anthony Smith....We should be passing on Nickey, as well.
I agree, and I chalk it up to the same mentality that has some folks convinced that the Raiders would be getting off "cheap" by surrendering a 2nd round pick and a top 3 CB salary for an overrated headcase like DeAngelo Hall.
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IMO, if the steelers sign hartwig they will probably go BPA the CB or DL position in the 1st round. hopefully if the go CB they don't pick talib.

the 2nd round they could grab pollak C/G.
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If he ever went to the Pro Bowl, he went as a spectator. Did you really think I'd make a statement like that without doing my homework first? Here are all the centers who have gone to Hawaii since Hartwig was a 6th round pick in '02:

2002 Pro Bowl Centers

Olin Kreutz

Kevin Mawae

Jeremy Newberry

Barret Robbins

Damien Woody



2003 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Mike Flanagan

Olin Kreutz

Kevin Mawae

Tom Nalen



2004 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Jeff Hartings

Olin Kreutz

Kevin Mawae



2005 Pro Bowl Centers

LeCharles Bentley

Jeff Hartings

Olin Kreutz

Jeff Saturday

Robbie Tobeck



2006 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Andre Gurode

Nick Hardwick

Olin Kreutz

Jeff Saturday



2007 Pro Bowl Centers

Matt Birk

Andre Gurode

Dan Koppen

Jeff Saturday
Where's Mahan?
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Donnie Nickey actually grew up 12 miles down the road from me in Plain City, Ohio not Akron, Ohio as the article indicates. He attended Jonathon Alder High School and I've seen many of his high school games. He was a great high school athlete.

He's very fast for a white boy but fast is about all that you get out of him. His high school was division 5 when he attended which equates to a small school in Ohio.
Nickey has shied away from contact ever since he attended the Big 10 Division 1 school of Ohio State and has continued to shy away in the NFL.

Signing Nickey would be a waste if you ask me. The Steelers will get nothing, performance wise, out of him.
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Donnie Nickey actually grew up 12 miles down the road from me in Plain City, Ohio not Akron, Ohio as the article indicates. He attended Jonathon Alder High School and I've seen many of his high school games. He was a great high school athlete.

He's very fast for a white boy but fast is about all that you get out of him. His high school was division 5 when he attended which equates to a small school in Ohio.
Nickey has shied away from contact ever since he attended the Big 10 Division 1 school of Ohio State and has continued to shy away in the NFL.

Signing Nickey would be a waste if you ask me. The Steelers will get nothing, performance wise, out of him.
Good observations, Pit.

So this guy is a malcontent who runs away from the ball carrier...

Unless we plan on filming a recreation of Little Giants, I'd say that's a big no thank you to Nickey.
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