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Old 04-07-2008, 12:11 PM   #21
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i'd say thier taken a look just in case it comes down to a BPA pick. there may be no OL or DL worthy of the 23 pick.
Bingo, that's exactly the issue.

If Albert is there, most likely he's the pick. Period

I'll take Groves over Cherilus, Balmer, Cambell, Baker and Merling.
Now a DB might be a different story. The value and need there might outweigh the Groves pick.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:21 PM   #22
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Groves is a little overrrated after having great workouts.

I prefer guys who proove themselves on the field not in a workout. A perfect example of that is Woodley

I wouldn't be that upset if we took Groves but people here are talking like he is the next Greg Lloyd. Groves's senior season was solid but not spectacular. He has trouble shedding blocks which is a huge killer in our 3-4
Groves has been projected as a 1st round prospect since the start of the draft process, worst case early 2nd. Who says he won't be as good as Lloyd, maybe he'll be better, maybe not, you surely can't predict that.

Is he not the top rated 3-4OLB in your view? If not who is?

This guy is a student of the game, like Woodley. He wants nothing more than to play for this team. Imagine the intensity he would bring every Sunday understanding what those legends brought before him.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:27 PM   #23
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I think the Steelers are thinking about moving Timmons inside when James Farrior eventually leaves.

Or, Groves could be depth and OLB/DE tweener.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:39 PM   #24
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I think the Steelers are thinking about moving Timmons inside when James Farrior eventually leaves.
They already are moving Timmons inside, NOW

He might start over Foote
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Groves has been projected as a 1st round prospect since the start of the draft process, worst case early 2nd.
He wasn't projected in the 1st round by the vast majority untill recently (he's still not projected as a lock for the 1st rd)
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Is he not the top rated 3-4OLB in your view? If not who is?
Gholston (in everyones view)

We have bigger needs like OT, DL, etc but I wouldn't be upset if we took Groves if we thought he was the BPA. As long as we addressed our needs with the following picks

fyi, Cliff Avril is another good OLB prospect that we could get in the 2nd, maybe 3rd
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They already are moving Timmons inside, NOW

He might start over Foote
I really think timmons will shine this year.
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Gholston (in everyones view)

We have bigger needs like OT, DL, etc but I wouldn't be upset if we took Groves if we thought he was the BPA. As long as we addressed our needs with the following picks

fyi, Cliff Avril is another good OLB prospect that we could get in the 2nd, maybe 3rd
Groves is much more instinctive than Gholston, and Gholston is the one with the overrated label right now. I would feel much more comfortable taking Groves at 1.23 than Gholston in the top 10 or 15 even.

Avril will not be available in the 3rd, definetly not when we pick in the 3rd.
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Groves is much more instinctive than Gholston, and Gholston is the one with the overrated label right now. I would feel much more comfortable taking Groves at 1.23 than Gholston in the top 10 or 15 even.
Gholston is a top 10 LOCK . He is far more of a top 10 lock than Groves is a 1st round lock. Because he is better

You asked who was better and I supplied an accurate answer
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Groves would be an excellent pick at 23. The way it looks is Albert will not be there. With Harrison having trouble off the field, the steelers are definitely looking at his replacement. Harrison is 30 years old which as we all know the steelers really don't negotiate contracts with players over 30. Groves at 23 and Justin King in the 2nd. OL or WR in the 3rd. Wild card pick is Dennis Dixon in the 4th or 5th - next slash.
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