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Old 06-13-2008, 03:46 PM   #31
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And as far as cyclical goes, a conference's strength is in it's coaches. Until the Big Ten can hire some decent coaches this side of Paterno and Tressel, they'll continue to suck hind teet behind the SEC and maybe even the ACC and PAC 10.
Big Ten is way better than the ACC

Usually the Big 10 is better than the Pac 10 but not last year

Big East sucks
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:54 PM   #32
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Big Ten is way better than the ACC

Usually the Big 10 is better than the Pac 10 but not last year

Big East sucks
Right now....sure. But what happens when Florida State and Miami get their programs turned around? How will the Big Ten be when Tiller leaves Purdue and Paterno leaves Penn State? How will those programs fare with new head coaches? Plus the jury is still out on Bielma at Wisconsin.

The fact is the Big Ten is always going to be Ohio State and Michigan and everyone else. On occasion Penn State, Iowa, or Wisconsin might put together a great run, but none of those teams perform year in and year out like Michigan and Ohio State.
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Oh, you mean like the post above where I point out LSU's schedule and lack of serious competition on it, and their 2 losses one at home, one to a dog of the conference and question the SEC getting so much "praise".

That type of lack of snideness.
Ah-hah! Trying to play coy are ya?

You know what I mean jellybean.

Jeremy - revs appears to want to let this go. Join him on the high road and please do the same. This flame throwing isn't serving any useful purpose.
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:01 PM   #34
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Ah-hah! Trying to play coy are ya?

You know what I mean jellybean.

Jeremy - revs appears to want to let this go. Join him on the high road and please do the same. This flame throwing isn't serving any useful purpose.
I agree......but I didn't start this.

The rule has always been that you can respond when crap is thrown your way. If that's not the way it is anymore, so be it.
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:28 PM   #35
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I take issue to the term, "The Big East Sucks"

Look at the OCC from last season shall we?

Week 1 Syracuse got destroyed by Pac 10 Washington. Ok, fair enough.
Week 2, Cincinnati beat the snot out of Pac 10 Oregon State.
Week 2, Iowa Big 10 slapped Syracuse around. Pretty sure Syracuse stinks, ok.
Week 2, South Florida beat Auburn SEC in Auburn. Huge win for the Big East.
Week 3, West Virginia beats up on their ACC Rival Maryland.
Week 3, Louisville loses to their SEC Rival Kentucky.
Week 3, Mich State Big 10 beats Pittsburgh in a close game.
Week 4, South Florida beats up ACC bottom feeder North Carolina.
Week 5, Rutgers loses to ACC Maryland.
Week 5, Pitt gets killed by ACC Virginia
Week 7, Pitt loses going for 2 and the win against Navy
Week 7, ACC Virginia barely beats Uconn
Week 8, West Virginia crushes SEC Miss State.
Bowls:
Rutgers won its bowl against Ball State
West Virginia won its bowl against Oklahoma
South Florida lost to Oregon, badly too.
Uconn lost to Wake Forest
Cincy won its bowl againt Southern Miss.

3-2 in Bowls. Not great, but not "Sucks" either. Their OCC they won some big games too. So "sucks" isn't an honest assessment of the Big East.
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This flame throwing isn't serving any useful purpose.


Awesome Off Season Matchup!!!!





j/k guys. anyways..... back to minding my own business. i normally dont even read this forum but my spidey sense alerted me to some action!
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Now, do the same for the SEC, lets see how it works out. I'm only putting on the list other "real" teams and not the Eastern Kentucky's of the world...lets go with the SEC OCS from 2007.
Week 1, Georgia beats Big 12 OK State pretty soundly
Week 1, Auburn beats up on Big 12 Kansas State
Week 1, Tennessee gets slapped around by Pac 10 Cal.
Week 2, Mississippi loses to Big 12 Missouri
Week 2, Auburn loses to Big East South Florida
Week 2, LSU beats ACC Va Tech.
Week 3, Kentucky beeats Big East Louisville
Week 5, Alabama loses to ACC Florida State
Week 8, Miss State loses to Big East West Virginia
Week 12, Alabama loses to Louisiana Monroe????
Week 13, Georgia crushes Georgia Teach ACC
Week 13, South Carolina loses to ACC Rival Clemson
Week 13, Vanderbilt loses to ACC Wake Forest
Week 13, Florida crushes ACC Rival Florida State

Bowls:
Miss State beats UCF. That's the university of Central Florida
Alabama beats Big 12 Colorado
Kentucky beats ACC Florida State
Auburn beats ACC Clemson
Tennessee beats Big 10 Wisconsin
Arkansas gets crushed by Big 12 Missouri
Florida loses to Big 10 Michigan
Georgia destroyes Hawaii...game never should have been played but alas...
LSU Beats big 10 Ohio State

7-2 in Bowl games, That's really good. SEC Did fantastic in the bowl games but their OCS during the season...not that impressive when really broken down. 6 wins 6 losses against other BCS Teams.
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I want to make it clear, I don't think the Big East is better than the SEC. I only argue that the SEC isn't as "great" as people say it is when really looked at objectively.

The Big 10 is not that great either, neither is the Pac 10 or ACC. The SEC is the best of all the BCS Conferences, but not that much better when its taken as a whole including its dogs, and its OCS loses. That's the point I'm trying to make with my break downs. Enjoy...

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I agree......but I didn't start this.

The rule has always been that you can respond when crap is thrown your way. If that's not the way it is anymore, so be it.
Jeremy - we try to limit the flame-throwing to the BF. That hasn't changed.

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Until he proves otherwise, I have to take him at his word here. Please don't throw any gasoline on a flickering flame.
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:01 AM   #40
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Just the facts, ma'am:

EVERY major program pads it's early season schedule. EVERY SINGLE ONE. And without a preseason, why wouldn't/shouldn't they? The REAL reason Michigan lost to Appy State is the Wolverines took a quality opponent far too lightly. That could have happened to any number of other teams from other conferences, including the SEC. Singling out one conference or team is ludicrous.

Ohio State is the single WORST example in the country to try and call out, as they have scheduled at least one major home/away OOC game every year from like 2000-2020. They've made it quite clear that they will play any team, any time, anywhere. They have asked teams like Florida and Alabama for home/away series, and been denied.

I'm trying my hardest to keep this based on the original gist of the post, plus defending my team/conference from strange attacks that make no sense and are based on bias and prejudice.
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