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Old 05-23-2008, 09:34 PM   #1
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Default Vince Young focused on winning, being role model

say what you want about Young, but this guy seems to have his head in the right place....

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NASHVILLE -- Despite coming off a 2006 season in which he won Offensive Rookie of the Year and helped to double the Tennessee Titans' win total from the previous year, Vince Young said he felt lost in training camp last summer.

He was hurting. He was overwhelmed.

At age 24 -- only one year into his NFL career -- he said he considered retirement.

"I really thought long and hard about it," Young said on Thursday after practice. "There was so much going on with my family. It was crazy being an NFL quarterback. It wasn't fun anymore. All of the fun was out of it. All of the excitement was gone. All I was doing was worrying about things.

"My teammates helped lift me out of it. I prayed really hard. And I began to focus on God's calling for me. Play football. Be a role model."

Refurbished, Young followed his 8-8 rookie campaign with a 10-6 mark and a trip to the playoffs. Now, as he gathers with his teammates and readies for his third season as an NFL quarterback, Young, who turned 25 on May 18, says he is better prepared for the assaults from without and within that come his way.

The scrutiny -- standard in the life of a star NFL quarterback -- is intense.

For a black one -- considering the history at the position -- and especially for Young, when taking into account his exhausting roots, the mind can be twisted and tricked. The focus suffocating.

In recent days, pictures of Young surfaced on the Internet drinking shirtless at a party back in his college town of Austin, Texas. Young said the party was a private one held by his former University of Texas teammate and current Oakland Raiders safety Michael Huff after Young had participated in Huff's charity softball and football camp for kids.

Among the unflattering captions, it was suggested that Young was not focused on football.

"First of all, it happened in early April, not last week, and there were a bunch of my former Texas teammates there and several other NFL guys," Young said. "It got kind of hot in there and several of us took our shirts off. Somebody snaps a picture. Here we go. It was young people, me included, having a good time, but I realize my mistake. It was not the model, the image I want to give to the kids. My teammates here have so much love and respect for me just as I have for them. They have barely said a word about it."

A year ago, a similar event might have had a bigger impact on Young's state of mind. However, things have changed for him.

"I have a stronger circle. Now I can handle this kind of stuff without it making me want to give up football," Young said. "I learned that 24/7 I'm representing the Titans and, especially, the kids all over I am trying to influence. I look at my man Michael Vick. I learned from that. I look at Pacman. I learned from that. I look at some troubles recently for rappers T.I. and Lil Wayne, guys I listen to. I learned from them. I've learned from my life.

"You can get too much going on where you can't control it anymore. No matter how much money you get, no matter how much comes your way, you have to control yourself. I know it's up to me. I can't get too big for my britches."


In other words, Young has to continue to grow up fast. Very fast.

As his exposure to the world, to life, unfolds in a blur, Young said he has to remember what he already knows. What he has already experienced. What he has already survived.

Raised in a home led by his mother and grandmother, Young is the youngest of three, with two older sisters. At seven years old, a vehicle hit him while he was on his bicycle. The bike's handlebar slammed into his stomach and resulted in him being hospitalized for months. As part of an early childhood in a thorny part of Houston, he was enticed by gangs and, with friends, vandalized and burglarized property and routinely skipped school.

Young said he saw at least 10 people shot.

Saw two die.


Once, a man his sister was dating was shot down the street, ran to their home, kicked in the door and lay on the floor bleeding. Young was nine or 10 then. All the women around him screaming. He saw it. He learned from it. Soon he began to ride his bike around his neighborhood and pull a mower behind him, cutting lawns and washing cars to contribute to the income in his home.

"I got it," Young said. "I was going to be in jail, crippled or dead."

At Texas he became one of college football's most dramatic players and with Tennessee he is 17-12 as a starter. He can throw it and he can run it, but critics want to see more in his throwing. More in his passing. More accuracy. More touchdown passes.

"It's 'Vince can't do this' and 'Vince can't do that,'" Young said. "I don't want to be a pocket quarterback. I want to be a Hall of Fame quarterback. Compare me to Randall Cunningham in my game. I ask our coaches to let me be me on the field. I listen and I do what I am asked. But they are listening, too."

Especially Mike Heimerdinger, Young's new offensive coordinator.

Heimerdinger said he was at first surprised when he first met Young and witnessed first hand his size (6-foot-5, 233 pounds), leadership abilities and how "he is so engaging and can take the air from a room." He loves Young's arm but is teaching him the importance of accuracy via footwork.

"His feet have been all over the place," Heimerdinger said. "And in hitting a golf ball, in hitting a baseball, in shooting a basketball, in any sport, your feet are the base of it all and must be set underneath you properly. We are focusing on that. It is going to make him a better quarterback. He is going to become more accurate and that is going to help us become not only a better offense but impact our defense and make us a better team. Bottom line is whether you are Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, you are judged on winning."

And Titans coach Jeff Fisher is puzzled by much of the consternation over Young. While developing, Young has won. Besides his 58.6 winning percentage as a starter, Young is one of only 11 quarterbacks of the 53 drafted in the first round since 1983 to lead his team to the playoffs in his first or second season.

The Titans were 5-11 and 4-12 the previous two seasons before Young joined them in 2006.

"I had a 10-year run here with No. 9 that was unforgettable," Fisher said of former Titans quarterback Steve McNair. "I want a 10-year run with No.10 now," he said of Young.

McNair happens to be one of Young's confidants. So, too, are Michael Jordan, gospel singer Yolanda Adams and his pastor back home in Houston. Backup quarterback Kerry Collins is in his ear often on the ins and outs of being an NFL quarterback and Young said that wisdom has proved essential.

Young has spent time this offseason returning to Texas to finish his degree and to host his football camp for kids. This year, he said, it was held in a "nice" area of Houston. Next year, he will have it near his old "low-income" area of Houston.

Go in. Go out.

So much, he said, like the life he has led. Like the one he is living.

"We've had a taste of the playoffs, and now we are a stronger team and want more," Young said. "I want a great year. We need a championship here. This team, this community deserves it. I know things are going to happen to any NFL quarterback, not just me. We're sticking together here. I love my coach (Fisher). He understands me as a person. I need him to focus on me as the person, not the player. I think he knows like I know -- the player is going to be all right."
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is his team carrying him? I don't think so, he's an important piece of a very good nucleus of football players, and I'm glad he's maturing, and becoming a leader.

it still sursprises me this guy completed over 60% of his passes. if he cuts down on the mental mistakes his critics will disappear.

hopefully his growing continues
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:59 PM   #2
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is his team carrying him? I don't think so, he's an important piece of a very good nucleus of football players, and I'm glad he's maturing, and becoming a leader.
I think his winning the ROY two season ago, coupled with the Pro Bowl spot he really didn't deserve (McNair stepped aside for him) were the worst things that could have happened to him.

Those things gave the mistaken impression that he was better than he really was/is. They also put added pressure on him to advance from there when there was really nowhere to go but down.

The defense saved his bacon week after week by allowing anemic performances to still result in Ws. Yeah, that's what they are supposed to do, but at some point you need to see some progression.

Instead, Vince whined quite a bit about how the team and even the coaches were not following his lead.

So, in the offseason, the biggest move the Titans make is to replace Norm Chow with Mike Heimerdinger thinking that since they now have their Steve McNair clone, perhaps Air McNair's old OC can transform Vince into Steve.

The flaw in this theory is that Steve McNair was a polished drop back passer out of Alcorn State, while Vince is anything BUT such a passer.

Not to mention, McNair had TONS more talent around him than Young has at the moment !!
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The flaw in this theory is that Steve McNair was a polished drop back passer out of Alcorn State, while Vince is anything BUT such a passer.
Huh? McNair was pretty much the same as VY early in his career as well - a running QB 1st and foremost who occasionally threw it and not very accurately - it wasn't until about his 4th or 5th year that he started to come into his own as a passer. VY can go either way at this point - he can eventually become another McNair, or he can go the way of Michael Vick (on the field of course, not in his personal life) and never progess as a passer.
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Huh? McNair was pretty much the same as VY early in his career as well - a running QB 1st and foremost who occasionally threw it and not very accurately - it wasn't until about his 4th or 5th year that he started to come into his own as a passer. VY can go either way at this point - he can eventually become another McNair, or he can go the way of Michael Vick (on the field of course, not in his personal life) and never progess as a passer.
Where do you think Steve got the name "Air McNair" ??

He set passing records at Alcorn State.

In 1994, he threw 57 touchdown passes and set tthe NCAA record for total offense for a career. He finished third in the Heisman vote that season as well

Doesn't sound like a running QB to me !!

The Oiler coaches used to ride his butt HARD after every pick he threw his first few years, which kinda screwed him up forever in terms of passing the ball a great deal. That was why and when he began to run with the ball instead, NOT because he always had done so.
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Doesn't sound like a running QB to me !!

The Oiler coaches used to ride his butt HARD after every pick he threw his first few years, which kinda screwed him up forever in terms of passing the ball a great deal. That was why and when he began to run with the ball instead, NOT because he always had done so.
Way to contradict yourself - I was talking about what he did in the NFL, not the NCAA. He put the ball in the air 415 times in '97 and 492 times in '98, with completion percentages of 52% and 58.7%, respectively. Seems to me he threw plenty. However, his completion percentages and TD:INT ratio improved over the following years while his rushing yardage and rushing TDs declined during the same period. Therefore he became a better passer and less of a running QB.

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Vince is a good quarterback if he has good talent around him then they could be a dangerous team.
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Where do you think Steve got the name "Air McNair" ??

He set passing records at Alcorn State.

In 1994, he threw 57 touchdown passes and set tthe NCAA record for total offense for a career. He finished third in the Heisman vote that season as well

Doesn't sound like a running QB to me !!

The Oiler coaches used to ride his butt HARD after every pick he threw his first few years, which kinda screwed him up forever in terms of passing the ball a great deal. That was why and when he began to run with the ball instead, NOT because he always had done so.
Are you for real???? Thats college this is the pro's, should a list 100 pages of good college players who stunk it up in the NFL??

Maybe he will be good but his college stats mean nothing now.
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I think Vince is going to go down as a very good pro.... not a great one. I mean, he's not going to be Bubby Brister or Mark Malone, but he wont end up the caliber of Ben and especially not Terry B.
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Way to contradict yourself - I was talking about what he did in the NFL, not the NCAA. He put the ball in the air 415 times in '97 and 492 times in '98, with completion percentages of 52% and 58.7%, respectively. Seems to me he threw plenty. However, his completion percentages and TD:INT ratio improved over the following years while his rushing yardage and rushing TDs declined during the same period. Therefore he became a better passer and less of a running QB.
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Are you for real???? Thats college this is the pro's, should a list 100 pages of good college players who stunk it up in the NFL??

Maybe he will be good but his college stats mean nothing now.
Yet another pair of examples of why any attempt at intelligent conversation is POINTLESS with Wild Yinzers !!
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I like Vince Young but I think the Titans are allowing his talent to go to waste with their lack of receiving talent. They seem more interested in drafting a 40 time (Chris Johnson, Chris Henry) than receivers to help bring him to the next level. Remember how well Vince and Limas Sweed worked together? I'm sure Titans fans are pissed that they could have had that instead of drafting a player they don't need.
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