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Old 05-25-2008, 06:53 AM   #1
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Default What is a troll?

I see the term "troll" used a lot on SF. Just wondering what everybody considers a "troll" to be in their opinion? What is a trolls purpose? Is there such a thing as a "good" troll? Just curious.
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Old 05-25-2008, 09:48 AM   #2
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Default Re: What is a troll?

a troll looks like this
they are ugly and go to places after places since no one welcomes them.. lol.. (i rly dk)
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:41 AM   #3
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Default Re: What is a troll?

Troll:

One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.
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Well said VT.
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:10 AM   #5
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Default Re: What is a troll?

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Troll:

One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.
I think that might be a reasonable definition.

But does that mean that a "troll" posts that type of message exclusively, or just mainly ??


I come here to trade jabs and patter with you folks, all the while knowing we are not going to agree much. However, I am more than willing to discuss football, or a few other things, calmly and intelligently without barbs (and have demonstrated as much) in the proper forum if not provoked.

Some folks label anyone who does not remain at the site on a consistent basis as a troll.

For others, it takes no more than to not be a Steelers fan !!

I don't really care if you label me, or what you label me. I come here, for the most part, to fly my colors in your front yard, banter reasonably when you let me, and smack back at you when you don't !!

Have a nice holiday weekend !!
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:10 AM   #6
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What Is A Troll?
The term derives from "trolling", a style of fishing which involves trailing bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The troll posts a message, often in response to an honest question, that is intended to upset, disrupt or simply insult the group.

Usually, it will fail, as the troll rarely bothers to match the tone or style of the group, and usually its ignorance shows.

Why do trolls do it?
I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.

Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.

For trolls, any response is 'recognition'; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.

Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it's a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?

Remember that trolls are cowards; they'll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that's what they do!).


How can troll posts be recognised?
No Imagination - Most are frighteningly obvious; sexist comments on nurses' groups, blasphemy on religious groups .. I kid you not.

Pedantic in the Extreme - Many trolls' preparation is so thorough, that while they waste time, they appear so ludicrous from the start that they elicit sympathetic mail - the danger is that once the group takes sides, the damage is done.

False Identity - Because they are cowards, trolls virtually never write over their own name, and often reveal their trolliness (and lack of imagination) in the chosen ID. As so many folk these days use false ID, this is not a strong indicator on its own!

Crossposting - Any post that is crossposted to several groups should be viewed as suspicious, particularly if unrelated or of opposing perspective. Why would someone do that?

Off-topic posting - Often genuine errors, but, if from an 'outsider' they deserve matter-of-fact response; if genuine, a brief apposite response is simply netiquette; if it's a troll post, you have denied it its reward.

Repetition of a question or statement is either a troll - or a pedant; either way, treatment as a troll is effective.

Missing The Point - Trolls rarely answer a direct question - they cannot, if asked to justify their twaddle - so they develop a fine line in missing the point.

Thick or Sad - Trolls are usually sad, lonely folk, with few social skills; they rarely make what most people would consider intelligent conversation. However, they frequently have an obsession with their IQ and feel the need to tell everyone. This is so frequent, that it is diagnostic! Somewhere on the web there must be an Intelligence Test for Trolls - rigged to always say "above 150"

Who is at risk?
Any newsgroup, bulletin board, forum or chatroom can attract trolls, but they don't have the brains to attack nuclear physicists, and they are drawn to the quick response where sex, religion and race are found; so politics is easy prey.

One troll famously tried to infiltrate a mensa group; the results read like 100 trolls and one regular, it didn't have a chance - but it was stupid enough to persist until removed.


When Should You Be Concerned?
Usually, no, though fractured funny bones and occasional waves of nausea have been reported.

When a troll become persistent and personal, you may need to consider the possibility that it has fermented into an Internet Stalker - equally pathetic, if not more so - but sometimes requiring weedkiller. Find Out More

Trolls - if they had brains, they just might be dangerous
http://www.flayme.com/troll/
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:20 AM   #7
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Default Re: What is a troll?

And no, I don't consider rival fans who routinely post here for "intelligent smack talk" as trolls. That's just good 'ole fashioned fun!
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Default Re: What is a troll?

You make some interesting and accurate points, but much of what you mention is self serving and arrogant.

for example.....

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I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.

Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.
Don't many fans, such as Steelers fans for instance, somehow associate their team's success with some sort of fan superiority and strength ??

I find that to be the case quite often, not always of course, but often.
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:57 AM   #9
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Default Re: What is a troll?

UKCB, you are not a troll. You get your fun from the give AND take, not from just the give.

The difference between a troll and a rival is that a rival will act the same way in real life; UKCB, if we were to meet at a game, we would jab and jibe, but we would eat and drink together as well. "Trolling" takes advantage of the nature of internet message boards to create something more; trolling's intent is to disrupt the board, not to argue with other fans. Trolling is more like mailing someone a dead mouse.
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UKCB, you are not a troll. You get your fun from the give AND take, not from just the give.

The difference between a troll and a rival is that a rival will act the same way in real life; UKCB, if we were to meet at a game, we would jab and jibe, but we would eat and drink together as well. "Trolling" takes advantage of the nature of internet message boards to create something more; trolling's intent is to disrupt the board, not to argue with other fans. Trolling is more like mailing someone a dead mouse.
It would appear that there are many varied descriptions of what constitutes a "troll".


....and yeah, your description of our meeting is probably accurate....so long as you don't wear a Steeler jersey..... how could I EAT while seeing that ??

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