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Old 06-03-2008, 04:27 AM   #1
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Default 2009 NFLdraftscout.com top 64

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...draftyear=2009

Looking at these early pre season projections the one thing that jumps out at me is the distinct lack of steeler type D linemen. Tyson Jackson is the only prototypical 3-4 DE on the list and he will be gone in the top ten. Fili Moala is a possible 3-4 DE candidate that is likely to see his stock climb and be out of reach of the expected pick to come in the late 20's, early 30's.

Looking at this list I can really see a few options in the first 2 rounds that are possibilities to upgrade the D line are Vance Walker, Terrance Taylor, Peria Jerry, Tyson Jackson and Fili Moala.

Please correct me if I am seriously wrong but 5 candidates out of 64 doesnt look too good if the steelers want to address D line in 2009 in the first 2 rounds.

Looking at that list I see real possibilities in the first 2 rounds to pick up an OT, C, FS, ILB or CB more so that D Line. A lucky draft will be needed to score a D line stud.

Once again it looks like the middle rounds of the draft will provide the D line prospects. ( my Kendall Langford for 2009 is Pannel Egboh Stanford)
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I would love Vince Walker in the 1st round. I also like Jeff Owens very much, but I have never seen him listed that high before, I'm thinking 2nd round right now. I think that Greg Middleton could line up at DE for us, but he looks to be a 1st round or early 2nd.

Great call on Pannel Egdoh, he is a kid I plan to watch this year. Another DE you might keep an eye on is Lawrence Wilson, like Egdoh he is in that 280 range and will probably go around the same area.

There are a lot of other players to watch, and I really think that list looks to be a little off on a few player.

I still think that our 1st day picks will be O-line, D-line, or CB, but if we can pick up an extra 3rd and 4th the early 2nd day will be a lot of fun for us.
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Sleeper alert!

Ryan Bain of Akron, 6'2 305 lbs, transfer from Iowa. He's a bowling ball of a man, but actually not fat, and he's the perfect NT type player. He's going to have a great season this year and will terrorize the MAC. He has two years of eligibility but if he has the season I think he will, he might come out early. You heard it here first.
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Sleeper alert!

Ryan Bain of Akron, 6'2 305 lbs, transfer from Iowa. He's a bowling ball of a man, but actually not fat, and he's the perfect NT type player. He's going to have a great season this year and will terrorize the MAC. He has two years of eligibility but if he has the season I think he will, he might come out early. You heard it here first.
I wondered where he went. You know why he left Iowa in the 1st place.
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http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...draftyear=2009

Looking at these early pre season projections the one thing that jumps out at me is the distinct lack of steeler type D linemen. Tyson Jackson is the only prototypical 3-4 DE on the list and he will be gone in the top ten. Fili Moala is a possible 3-4 DE candidate that is likely to see his stock climb and be out of reach of the expected pick to come in the late 20's, early 30's.

Looking at this list I can really see a few options in the first 2 rounds that are possibilities to upgrade the D line are Vance Walker, Terrance Taylor, Peria Jerry, Tyson Jackson and Fili Moala.

Please correct me if I am seriously wrong but 5 candidates out of 64 doesnt look too good if the steelers want to address D line in 2009 in the first 2 rounds.

Looking at that list I see real possibilities in the first 2 rounds to pick up an OT, C, FS, ILB or CB more so that D Line. A lucky draft will be needed to score a D line stud.

Once again it looks like the middle rounds of the draft will provide the D line prospects. ( my Kendall Langford for 2009 is Pannel Egboh Stanford)
i'm gonna have to disagree here aussie ....... there's a ton of talent that should be able to transition to the 3-4 at DE & NT ........ keep an eye on these guys also

DE
DeMarcus Granger / Oklahoma
Jeff Owens / Georgia
Jeremy Jarmon / Kentucky
George Hypolite / Colorado
Greg Middleton / Indiana
Lawrence Wilson / Ohio State

NT
Vince Oghobaase / Duke
Terrance Taylor / Michigan
Al Woods / LSU
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I wondered where he went. You know why he left Iowa in the 1st place.
Apparently he had a falling out with the coaches, and they moved him down the depth chart without any explanantion. He asked for a transfer and they granted it. The early reports out of Akron's camp was that he was such a disruptive force along the line that the offense was having trouble even getting plays off, and in the Spring game he looked like a man playing against boys. Not to say that UA has the most talented of OL, but they held their own againt OSU last year for a half, and they play some tough OOC games every year, so they know a good DL when they see one.
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i'm gonna have to disagree here aussie ....... there's a ton of talent that should be able to transition to the 3-4 at DE & NT ........ keep an eye on these guys also

DE
DeMarcus Granger / Oklahoma
Jeff Owens / Georgia
Jeremy Jarmon / Kentucky
George Hypolite / Colorado
Greg Middleton / Indiana
Lawrence Wilson / Ohio State

NT
Vince Oghobaase / Duke
Terrance Taylor / Michigan
Al Woods / LSU
Funny you should say that MOP. I thought this post might come back to bite me.

After I made that post I decided to do some research to see what I could find beyond the players on that top 64 list and yes you are right.

The names I found included

Demonte Bolden / Tennesse
El Ash / Houston
Justin Kershaw/ Michigan State
Mark Huygens / Northern Iowa
Ra'shon Harris / Oregon

These players I found were late rounders who could come into calculation with a gain of 20 odd pounds or a big step up in play this season.

Add to this list your players and I feel a little more optimistic.
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i'm gonna have to disagree here aussie ....... there's a ton of talent that should be able to transition to the 3-4 at DE & NT ........ keep an eye on these guys also

DE
DeMarcus Granger / Oklahoma
Jeff Owens / Georgia
Jeremy Jarmon / Kentucky
George Hypolite / Colorado
Greg Middleton / Indiana
Lawrence Wilson / Ohio State

NT
Vince Oghobaase / Duke
Terrance Taylor / Michigan
Al Woods / LSU
i hear that terrance taylor is a monster of a man and looks to be a lock for 1st team all big-10...

in addition im not sure about the DE's you have mentioned but i tend to stray away from those superquick 4-3 DT's that try to make the switch...

i have no cold hard facts or anything but imagine trying to plug a sedrick ellis into our system... i don't see it happening because the 3-4 DEs require incredible upper/lower body strength... 4-3 DT's require mainly quickness and an array of passrushing moves to get to the QB which in my mind is useless for a 3-4 DE unless it is an obvious passing situation..
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It is hard to spot out D-lineman when almost nobody plays the 3-4.
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i hear that terrance taylor is a monster of a man and looks to be a lock for 1st team all big-10...

in addition im not sure about the DE's you have mentioned but i tend to stray away from those superquick 4-3 DT's that try to make the switch...

i have no cold hard facts or anything but imagine trying to plug a sedrick ellis into our system... i don't see it happening because the 3-4 DEs require incredible upper/lower body strength... 4-3 DT's require mainly quickness and an array of passrushing moves to get to the QB which in my mind is useless for a 3-4 DE unless it is an obvious passing situation..
then where exactly do 3-4 DE's come from ??? is this guy strong enough for ya ??
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