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Old 06-17-2008, 10:41 PM   #11
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If Democrats wanted someone that was so badly experienced, they would have had Bill Richardson as their candidate.


wait...


here it comes....






seriously, it is coming....


almost there......




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Old 06-17-2008, 10:46 PM   #12
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Obama is a steelers Fan!!!
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wait...


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I gotta admit...

Richardson would have been one that I while I couldn't vote for him (abortion issue for me), I would have probably felt pretty good going to bed at night with him as president otherwise.
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:16 PM   #14
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The war time era must end...... The war in iraq is useless and we need a president who is willing to take us out of a giant misteak..... Not one who believe we should be there another 10 years.
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:16 PM   #15
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Richardson would have been one that I while I couldn't vote for him (abortion issue for me), I would have probably felt pretty good going to bed at night with him as president otherwise.
Do you feel good going to bed at night with Bush as our president?
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Old 06-18-2008, 01:16 AM   #16
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Do you feel good going to bed at night with Bush as our president?
I feel better now with Bush than I am sure I would have with Gore or Kerry.

However, give me the days of Truman, Reagan, FDR, or TR.

See... What I dislike the most is the fact that the parties have become way to polarized. Back in the day, JFK ran to the right of Nixon on a number of issues, and Nixon ran to the right of JFK on some issues. The key was who repped the most issues that you agreed with.

Now... the other party is hate-mongering, lying, self-aggrandizing idiots...

There simply is no civility left in politics.

And yes, I blame both parties for that as well.
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I feel better now with Bush than I am sure I would have with Gore or Kerry.

However, give me the days of Truman, Reagan, FDR, or TR.

See... What I dislike the most is the fact that the parties have become way to polarized. Back in the day, JFK ran to the right of Nixon on a number of issues, and Nixon ran to the right of JFK on some issues. The key was who repped the most issues that you agreed with.

Now... the other party is hate-mongering, lying, self-aggrandizing idiots...

There simply is no civility left in politics.

And yes, I blame both parties for that as well.

I agree with EVERYTHING you just said....excellent post. The closer that we get to this election... the more polarized the parties will get.... I can already hear it..."The world will end if you vote Republican/Democrat"
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This election is the final proof that the two party system simply doesn't work. We're being offered a choice between two mediocre at best candidates.

Obama is a political infant who has Marxist leanings.

McCain is a professional politician who deflects character questions with constant reminders of his time as a POW.

Obama supports many of the same policies that failed under Carter.

McCain supports the failed Presidency of George Bush.

Obama has been seen on countless videos stumbling his way through questions.

McCain can be seen and heard flip flopping on issues, sometimes on consecutive days.

Bottom line is that whoever is elected President will be a transitional President at best. I worry for the future of America with either of these candidates. There's not a decent choice to be had for America.
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I feel better now with Bush than I am sure I would have with Gore or Kerry.

However, give me the days of Truman, Reagan, FDR, or TR.

See... What I dislike the most is the fact that the parties have become way to polarized. Back in the day, JFK ran to the right of Nixon on a number of issues, and Nixon ran to the right of JFK on some issues. The key was who repped the most issues that you agreed with.

Now... the other party is hate-mongering, lying, self-aggrandizing idiots...

There simply is no civility left in politics.

And yes, I blame both parties for that as well.
Excellent post. Pretty much sums up why I'm pretty apathetic right now. Nobody cares about issues anymore, it's who makes the best speeches, who promises the most (that they will later renege on), catchy ads and scare/hate mongering. I don't see it changing any time soon either, not with the media so into "shock journalism" and promotion of their own agendas that creates the current political climate.
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Health Care..... We have a totally broken system... we need universal health care just like every other civilized government.
Really? You want 1/7th of our economy completely run and controlled by the government? The private sector is almost always more efficient (less costly) than the government and usually provides a much better product or service. The knee jerk compassionate solution isn’t necessarily the right one.

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Taxes... Why is it that the 1% of americans who have more than over 90% of the rest of use pay less percentage in taxes.
What’s great about this company BBFW is if you don’t like your situation, rather than complain that the wealthy are just greedy, unethical cheats, you can do something about it… I wouldn’t be surprised if the top 10% pay 90% of the taxes so what you said is completely untrue. And if Obama is president, mark my words, your taxes will go way up. Although they always run on “middle class tax cut” platform, when was the last time a democrat really cut taxes on the middle class? Bush did.

I’m going to ask you flat out BBFW. Are you a big fan of socialism and communism? I’m being serious here. You talk about little more than class envy and government solutions.

And as far as the "global warming" scheme, it is primarily junk science imo. Shame on McCain for pandering to the liberal media, ignorant public, and people like Gore and scientists with an agenda. I have heard more money is spent on the global warming scam than on cancer cures…
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