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Old 06-24-2008, 12:31 PM   #1
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Priest's marching orders: Recruit from troops

METHUEN, Massachusetts (AP) -- The Rev. John McLaughlin never served in the military, but he's faced unexpected, violent death in the way troops do.


People who confront death "eventually start thinking about helping people in life," said John McLaughlin.

Decades ago, McLaughlin lay bleeding on a Boston street after being stabbed from behind. The prayer-filled moments that followed, when McLaughlin believed he might die, changed his life and ultimately led him to God.

Now, in a newly created job, he'll be trying to recruit military personnel to the Roman Catholic priesthood.

He believes that service members, who confront death as part of their jobs, could have a similar openness to religious service.

"You start realizing how fragile life is," McLaughlin said. "And when people start thinking in those terms, they eventually start thinking about helping people in life."

This month, McLaughlin left his parish north of Boston and became the first-ever national vocations director at the Archdiocese of the Military in Washington. McLaughlin will travel the country, speaking to troops about following a commitment to their country with commitment to their faith.

The clergy shortage in the Catholic church is well documented, and officials see the military as potentially rich ground to find future priests and nuns.

Besides having faced questions of life and death, military men and women tend to have traits necessary for religious life, including self-discipline and a willingness to sacrifice, said Monsignor James Dixon of the Archdiocese of the Military.

Church officials estimate 11 percent of seminary students during the last three years served in the military or had a parent who served. The archdiocese has long reached out to service members, but never had the money to hire someone dedicated to that job, Dixon said.

"We finally got to the point where we think it's become an absolute necessity," he said.

Army chaplain Paul Hurley, who attended seminary with McLaughlin in the early 1990s, advocated for his friend to get the job without McLaughlin's knowledge.

Hurley said McLaughlin has an authenticity and a knack for getting young people to talk about what's important to them. Those characteristics are crucial when someone is deciding if life as a priest or nun is right, he said.

"He's got that special touch," Hurley said. "He finds a way of connecting with people where they're at."

McLaughlin's casual manner went with his unbuttoned clerical collar during a recent interview in his former office at Saint Monica's Church in Methuen. A solid build reflects his past as wrestler at Boston College and successful high school coach in his native Woburn.

McLaughlin, 50, the oldest of four brothers, said his first major encounter with God came when he was stabbed in the liver at age 20 while walking near Boston's Faneuil Hall marketplace. He and his brother were jumped without provocation, he said. As he lay on the street, McLaughlin prayed for forgiveness, and for his family.

"Even when I faced the worst hardship I turned to God," McLaughlin said.

His commitment to the priesthood came more than a decade later, after experiencing an overwhelming peace during visits to the village of Medjugorje, in the former Yugoslavia, where the Virgin Mary is said to have appeared.

"I thought, this is what God wants me to do, is to tell people about that and bring that peace of God to them," he said.

McLaughlin was initially hesitant to take the new vocations post, telling Dixon that he was comfortable at Saint Monica's.

O'Brien replied that "there's a lot of men and women in Afghanistan and Iraq that were pretty comfortable, too," McLaughlin said. "That little guilt trip made me think about things."

McLaughlin believes he'll be helping both the church and the troops in his new job. If he succeeds in recruiting more priests to dioceses, he said, those dioceses may be more likely to allow their priests to serve in the military, where the priest shortage is particularly acute.

In the Army, for instance, there are just 100 priests to serve more than 105,000 Catholic soldiers, said Chaplain Ran Dolinger, a spokesman at the Army's office of Chief of Chaplains.

Dolinger said he welcomed the church's move to create McLaughlin's job, adding he knows some people who leave the military for religious life will never return but that others will become the chaplains the military sorely needs.

If that happens, Hurley said, McLaughlin "is going to make a tremendous difference in the lives of some pretty heroic people."

McLaughlin said he wants to be sure troops are serious about religious life, and not just fulfilling the rash, fearful deals some might make with God if they return safely from battle.

"The hope is that they'll think about it, talk to me about it, and then at the end of their (military) commitment, that's when they'll make the decisions," he said.

The job will require extensive travel to bases around the country to build relationships with the chaplains in closest touch with those considering a call to the Catholic church. Retreats and correspondence with interested troops will follow.

But many plans for the new job are still largely uncharted, McLaughlin said, adding he knows the challenges of drawing people to the priesthood in the modern day remain huge.

"All I know is that if I show them I enjoy the priesthood and believe in it, if God wants it to happen, it will happen," he said
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Yeah, I saw that as well. More power to him. I think he'll run into some problems with the celibacy thing, and of course the women are out, at least as far as priesthood is concerned.

It's hard to tell from the article itself, but there is no government sanction of this. The Archdiocese of the Military is part of the Catholic Church, and Rev. McLaughlin can welcome whomever he wants to his meetings, just like I can if I were so inclined.
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Funny in the Maronite Catholic Church the Priests can marry, but not in the Roman Catholic Church. They are both under the Pope, but each have their own specific rules.
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Yeah, I saw that as well. More power to him. I think he'll run into some problems with the celibacy thing, and of course the women are out, at least as far as priesthood is concerned.

It's hard to tell from the article itself, but there is no government sanction of this. The Archdiocese of the Military is part of the Catholic Church, and Rev. McLaughlin can welcome whomever he wants to his meetings, just like I can if I were so inclined.
I think he'll have some success, but I don't see this being very effective.
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Yeah, I saw that as well. More power to him. I think he'll run into some problems with the celibacy thing, and of course the women are out, at least as far as priesthood is concerned.

It's hard to tell from the article itself, but there is no government sanction of this. The Archdiocese of the Military is part of the Catholic Church, and Rev. McLaughlin can welcome whomever he wants to his meetings, just like I can if I were so inclined.



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" The clergy shortage in the Catholic church is well documented, and officials see the military as potentially rich ground to find future priests and nuns.
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The catholic church is hitting the panic button! They are losing all thier priests to another club called NAMBLA!

Speaking as prior military and someone who has been shot at and thought I was going to die, I LOST religion when I was at war. I now see organized religion the same way I see Santa Clause! Just another story to make people "be good for goodness sake" Oh ya better watch out ya better not cry..........sorry I digress....

Anyway when you see the horrible images of war it's hard to believe that the god that is spoken of so fondly at church would let these atrocities go on. Not to mention all the other vile crap in this world.... see also the catholic pediphiles I mean priests!
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" The clergy shortage in the Catholic church is well documented, and officials see the military as potentially rich ground to find future priests and nuns.
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The catholic church is hitting the panic button! They are losing all thier priests to another club called NAMBLA!

Speaking as prior military and someone who has been shot at and thought I was going to die, I LOST religion when I was at war. I now see organized religion the same way I see Santa Clause! Just another story to make people "be good for goodness sake" Oh ya better watch out ya better not cry..........sorry I digress....

Anyway when you see the horrible images of war it's hard to believe that the god that is spoken of so fondly at church would let these atrocities go on. Not to mention all the other vile crap in this world.... see also the catholic pediphiles I mean priests!

I can understand that view....

Maybe I can suggest a slightly altered way of viewing it?

What you saw wasn't proof that God doesn't exist, rather, it was proof of what happens when people focus on themselves rather than God. After all, there are consequences to actions... and war sometimes is the ultimate consequence to action.
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I can understand that view....

Maybe I can suggest a slightly altered way of viewing it?

What you saw wasn't proof that God doesn't exist, rather, it was proof of what happens when people focus on themselves rather than God. After all, there are consequences to actions... and war sometimes is the ultimate consequence to action.

Problem with that statement is that if you ask my nieghbors and co-workers who is the one guy they can turn to for help, they will tell you to see me! I do not need the fear of hell or the wrath of god to keep me on the right path. So to say that if I don't focus on god that I can't possibly be a good person is an assumption that unfortunately I have to deal with everytime I meet someone new and they find out I don't "believe". At least until they get to know me and then there eyes are opened. If there is a higher power(and I believe there is, just not the bibles version) he/she/it has left us to our own devises and we are subject to our own wrath!
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Problem with that statement is that if you ask my nieghbors and co-workers who is the one guy they can turn to for help, they will tell you to see me! I do not need the fear of hell or the wrath of god to keep me on the right path. So to say that if I don't focus on god that I can't possibly be a good person is an assumption that unfortunately I have to deal with everytime I meet someone new and they find out I don't "believe". At least until they get to know me and then there eyes are opened. If there is a higher power(and I believe there is, just not the bibles version) he/she/it has left us to our own devises and we are subject to our own wrath!
OK..

So you believe God exists... just not the Western Idea of God? Is that right?

(I take these discussions very serious as you can imagine from my SN... so I am not trying to "set you up" or "back you into a corner" I am genuinely interested in your answers...)

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Believing in God isn't what makes you a "good person"

I am not interested in a "good person" per se, because anyone and everyone can define that to their own ideals.
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I'll vouch for Preacher's genuine curiosity. HOTGs, Preach really just wants to know. He is as curious about how someone can not believe as you probably are about how someone can.
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