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Old 06-29-2008, 01:06 AM   #21
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Personally if it were me running the show, every player would be paid exactly the same, no matter what. Instead of huge contracts, I would have performance bonuses that allow you to rake in the big bucks.

It's not a flawless plan...You'd have to eliminate things like receivers crying that they aren't getting enough passes or RB's who say they need the ball more.....Oh, wait....we have that now....

Only thing I'd want to avoid is hearing broadcasters saying "James Harrison just plowed through the line for a beautiful sack....That's an extra 5 grand for him tonight! Hah Hah Hah!!!"

It's simple. It's fair. Everybody has an opportunity to make their money...and it's added motivation.
and sadly, it will drive even more individualism and stats focused football.

I like my buddy's idea of salary cap according to position.

Take too much money, and you have to explain it to the guy you line up next to.
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Old 06-29-2008, 08:03 AM   #22
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Default Re: Goodell on rookie pay: 'There's something wrong'

I agree with alot of the ideas in here, but my idea of fairness all comes down to having a rookie cap. And maybe even having a higher $$$ for varying positions.. like having it like this:

QB's $1.5 Mill. a year for 2 years with an option for a 3rd worth around $2.0 mill.
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RB's like this ; $1.0 mill. first 3 years and option of $2.5 mill the 4th year.
Just example of the way it could be.. just my opinion but who am I?
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Old 06-29-2008, 11:57 AM   #23
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Default Re: Goodell on rookie pay: 'There's something wrong'

i like ur idea but honestly the money won't be that low... it would have to be raised to make evryone happy... and then u would have to have a cap on the signing bonus as well
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Old 06-29-2008, 12:28 PM   #24
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Oh the irony.
Hello. My name is Ben Bernanke. And I just want the American people to know that I have two choices and only two choices.

1) Thermal nuclear war on core global prices or...
2) Chemical warfare on the US housing markets

Just an FYI. Oh. And did I mention that the sport and sport media bubbles do not have immunity from reality either?

I'll leave the rest for the next Congress to really make things worse.

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Old 06-29-2008, 12:43 PM   #25
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and sadly, it will drive even more individualism and stats focused football.

I like my buddy's idea of salary cap according to position.

Take too much money, and you have to explain it to the guy you line up next to.
The consequence may be separate unions for each position. And then do each union constitute a 'sub-union' or a galaxy of unions all negotiating with the organizations autonomously. Yuck. Talk about agent fatigue. I would tune out.

At some point don't we all lose touch with what the league is about. Teams. Football.

But thankfully macroeconomic conditions will spare NO ONE. What is still very very unknown is who are the zombies out there that are insolvent. What stadiums are leveraged beyond repair. What ownership groups were snookered into worthless securities.

The globe needed a reality check a few years ago. Now the globe ain't askin'!!!
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and sadly, it will drive even more individualism and stats focused football.

I like my buddy's idea of salary cap according to position.

Take too much money, and you have to explain it to the guy you line up next to.
Everybody making the same is better for the team. Bonuses for performance may hinge a bit toward the individual. It's a more acceptible balance.

If you had caps based on position, nobody would consider it fair...Say, if I were a lineman, I would be insulted that a WR, RB or QB makes more than me in that system, because the only reason they're on their feet is because I stopped a furious blitz from a linebacker.

I think a performance bonus would be a little harder to sort out for lineman, but it would all need to be fair.
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Default Re: Goodell on rookie pay: 'There's something wrong'

Heck, maybe take away individual performance bonuses from my grand scheme...

Instead make them all team based. Every TD Ben throws, or Parker/Mendenhall pound into the endzone...the entire offense gets a bonus.

Every sack, INT, fumble recovery, the defense gets a bonus.

They don't even need to be big payouts for bonuses...just a little 'icing on the cake'
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Default Re: Goodell on rookie pay: 'There's something wrong'

It'll end up being somehting like what the NBA has, but a little more complex. A QB should not be capped the same as a DL, even though both could be picked in the same exact draft position: One position is inherently more valuable than the other.
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Default Re: Goodell on rookie pay: 'There's something wrong'

but u know it won't work that way,, b/c the best will complain that they get paid just as much as the worse player in the league.. i think they should either base it on how many yrs u are in the league.. like if ur under 5 yrs.. ur cap of totally salary should be like 20 mill and so forth 4 ppl w/ more yrs...
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Default Re: Goodell on rookie pay: 'There's something wrong'

It should be a sliding scale based upon where you are drafted. Combined with an average salary of what your position is currently being paid.

So if the average RB gets (I have no idea) say 1 mil a year, then as the first drafted RB you get 1 mil a year for 4 years, with the option to renegotiate with your current team in after year 3. The second drafted RB would then get paid less than the 1st drafted RB by a % worked out by the brilliant minds that think all this stuff out, and there you have it. A fair balanced rookie contract solution, that makes sense.
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