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Old 07-24-2008, 10:13 PM   #21
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im sure the answer is "yes" and "yes" but did he sign a deal with detroit and does he get to keep his bonus? (probably around $50,000 or so)
I don't know that a 50K signing bonus was on the table for the kid. That seems high for where he was drafted. I could be wrong, it's been a while since I've looked at a signing bonus for anybody not already an NFL Vet or for any second day pick.

As for whether he keeps it or not, that's really dependent on how Detroit wishes to deal with the issue and the language of the contract.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:29 PM   #22
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I don't know that a 50K signing bonus was on the table for the kid. That seems high for where he was drafted.
Nope, that's about right....

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As a seventh-round draft pick, he will get a signing bonus in the range of $45,000. The minimum salary for a rookie in the NFL is $295,000. He keeps any money he makes from outside endorsements.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...38/1004/SPORTS (under right sidebar entitled "More Information")
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:34 PM   #23
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Nope, that's about right....



http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...38/1004/SPORTS (under right sidebar entitled "More Information")
Wow, thank you. I wasn't really sure. I don't pay too much attention to the salaries of 5th+ round picks, because of the likelihood (or lack thereof) that they will produce. I know it's an insignificant amount (which is really sad to say) compared to some of the more high profile players in the league.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:37 PM   #24
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Wow, thank you. I wasn't really sure. I don't pay too much attention to the salaries of 5th+ round picks, because of the likelihood (or lack thereof) that they will produce.
Yeah, me neither - I thought 50K was awful high too - I figured it would be in the neighborhood of 10-15K at the most.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:40 PM   #25
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Yeah, me neither - I thought 50K was awful high too - I figured it would be in the neighborhood of 10-15K at the most.
I make just a little bit more in a year than he is signing for. That's the saddest thing to me. I work for the United States Army as a Civilian and as an Army Reservist, he's a football player. He's not getting a bonus like that because he's a West Point Grad, he's getting that because he can play a game.

Then, on top of it all, I'd have to salute him if we ran into each other in uniform. I've got more time on the shitter overseas than he has working for Active Army...
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I work for the United States Army as a Civilian and as an Army Reservist.....
Small world - I used to work for the Army at Ft. Richardson (Alaska) as a civilian after I got out of the Army back in '92 myself.
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Small world - I used to work for the Army at Ft. Richardson (Alaska) as a civilian after I got out of the Army back in '92 myself.
Yeah, working as a Civilian (non-contractor) bites right now. Overworked and underpaid compared to "true civilian" counterparts.

I've dropped a warrant packet and hope to be going to Warrant Officer Candidate School (Property Book Technician) in the fall. If accepted, I'll be going active duty once I get MOSQ. That's my career goal anyways.

Still, I'd love to work at Alaska. I've heard nothing but good things about being there.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:58 PM   #28
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The Army has totally screwed Campbell from the Detroit Lions. This kid was ready to start training camp in a couple of days and the Army tells him he has to serve a 2 year commitment. WTF!!!! Why did they even let him enter the draft???!!! I read that they just recently changed their policy. Why couldn't they have grandfathered him and let him play. I guess they couldn't deal with a before and after type of thing. Knowing the Army like I do (20 yrs service, currently retired) they knew what they were planning on doing before he was drafted. Then to make it worse they tell him a few days before training camp begins. Hows that for timing. Now they expect him to be motivated to do what they want him to do. This is some serious BS!!!!!!!!!!


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I spent 6 years in the suck (USMC) so I know all about getting mind phucked. I'm not saying I disagree with the policy. Two years isn't a lot to ask after giving him a first rate West Point education for free. As far as that goes two years is letting him off the hook easy IMO. I just think the timing is horrible and and a huge PR hit for the Army to flip flop like this at the last second. So in other words, this is about par for the course.....Which was my original point.
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:52 PM   #30
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The Army has totally screwed Campbell from the Detroit Lions. This kid was ready to start training camp in a couple of days and the Army tells him he has to serve a 2 year commitment. WTF!!!! Why did they even let him enter the draft???!!! I read that they just recently changed their policy. Why couldn't they have grandfathered him and let him play. I guess they couldn't deal with a before and after type of thing. Knowing the Army like I do (20 yrs service, currently retired) they knew what they were planning on doing before he was drafted. Then to make it worse they tell him a few days before training camp begins. Hows that for timing. Now they expect him to be motivated to do what they want him to do. This is some serious BS!!!!!!!!!!


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You should know, then, that DoD policy supersedes Army policy. The Army was required to change their policy. It was a BS policy to begin with.

As for his motivation, if saving your own life and the life of another isn't motivation enough, he shouldn't have joined West Point to begin with.
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