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Old 07-27-2008, 02:02 PM   #11
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Hopefully our wittle players dont get hurty wurty and tired this year and decide to half ass it at the end of the year. JK, from what i have heard the steelers were the only team to practice in full pads as often as they did, (which was a hell of a lot more than the next team).
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Old 07-27-2008, 02:31 PM   #12
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The 98 team was 7-5 and then went down the toilet and ended up 7-9 I think. That started with the coin flip game. The 1999 team (sorry to bring up bad memories) had a horrific melt down which spiraled into 6 straight loses. If I am not mistaken, they had been above .500.

I agree with those of you who pointed out Tomlin was establishing himself.
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Old 07-27-2008, 03:01 PM   #13
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as much of a great, smart, coach i think tomlin is who has learned alot, and as much as i respect a new coach running a grueling camp to see hwat his team is made of, last year we had 5 pre-season games. this year there is 4.

i cant make more of this than what it is. its a natural trim down of practice, not an epiphany.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:05 PM   #14
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Tomlin hasn't proved himself to me quite yet. We struggled against inferior opponents last year and especially on the road. You have to have a good road record to win in this league. Tomlin needs to take control over Arians when the game is on the line and not let that moron lose games for us at the end. I think we lost almost all the games we lost due to Arians bad play calling late in the game and STs last year. The fact he didn't fire that ST coach frosts me to this day. He needs to be GONE. If the STs struggle early, he needs to be fired right away or it will be a LONG SEASON against the likes of Patriots, Chargers, Colts, Joshua Cribbs, etc.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:33 PM   #15
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I hope Tomlin gives his rookies more playing time with the starting lineups during preaseason.....Ben and Sweed need to stay after practice and connect on deep passes
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:36 PM   #16
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For those frying Tomlin over special teams, paaaleeeeeeeeeease let up because Cowher's special teams were horrific until we had Randle-El....
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:55 PM   #17
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Tomlin is a bright chap. And I'm not saying that to be funny. He's seems to be extremely intelligent, which IMO, will help with whatever he's not an expert on in football, or doesn't have much experience in. He can make do with his mind, which also IMO, is one the greatest intangibles on this team. (besides Big Ben's escaping ability)

The man had 0 years of head coaching experience. Let me repeat myself, ZERO. He comes in (all blue-collar business btw) and takes over a team with a recently retired coach of 15 years. Tell me that's not hard. Then he has a team that won a super bowl 2 years prior, so the expectations are immediately very high. Rod Marinelli had a much easier job than Tomlin. (some may disagree with me on that) Tomlin has to arrive, and make a good impression the first time around, and prove that he's worthy, make a good impression on a group of somewhat skeptical players, and prove that he's worthy, all while somehow putting his foot down on how he's gonna run the ship.

I think he passed with flying colors. Granted he made mistakes at times, but he certainly didn't sink the ship either. As the title says, Tomlin is learning!

There's great things in store for the team.

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Tomlin hasn't proved himself to me quite yet. We struggled against inferior opponents last year and especially on the road. You have to have a good road record to win in this league. Tomlin needs to take control over Arians when the game is on the line and not let that moron lose games for us at the end. I think we lost almost all the games we lost due to Arians bad play calling late in the game and STs last year. The fact he didn't fire that ST coach frosts me to this day. He needs to be GONE. If the STs struggle early, he needs to be fired right away or it will be a LONG SEASON against the likes of Patriots, Chargers, Colts, Joshua Cribbs, etc.
I have to disagree with your last statements. I believe consistency is the key. Give the man another year to turn it around and make it better. If he still flops in the mud, can him. Until then, sometimes a little faith from your superiors can go a long way. Obviously Tomlin thinks highly of him or he wouldn't be around still.

I'll say it again. Consistency is the key. IF he and the ST's are consistently inconsistent, then it's time for new ST leadership.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:44 PM   #18
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Don't remember those seasons? Here's a more recent example...

2006- Coming off a Super Bowl victory, the team started out 2-6, losing to the 2-14 Raiders, and getting hammered 58-7 in both blowout games versus the Ravens. And remembering how embarrassing that was.
I do remember this season and we improved and almost made the playoffs...No thanks to Cowher
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Last year I understand why he held such a tough training camp. There was a new sherriff in town and he wanted EVERYONE to know things would be different with him in charge.

He saw that it wore on the players last year and now he's going to make it easier. They all know this isn't going to be anything like Bill Cowher's Steelers anymore so he doesn't have to be as much of a hardass.
Exactly.....I understood why Tomlin was a task master at training camp last year.....He had to show the team he was the boss...But I do like he is willing to change if he thinks an easier camp will keep them fresher.....Just as long as Tomlin doesn't get to soft....
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as much of a great, smart, coach i think tomlin is who has learned alot, and as much as i respect a new coach running a grueling camp to see hwat his team is made of, last year we had 5 pre-season games. this year there is 4.

i cant make more of this than what it is. its a natural trim down of practice, not an epiphany.
That would be true... except that he trimmed it down even MORE.

You're right. It isn't an epiphany... but it is learning. That is what I am excited about.
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