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Old 07-30-2008, 09:30 PM   #11
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Default Re: Offensive Line Power Struggle

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One Rotten Apple Spoils The Bunch.

He's a Jet now. I will pay attention to the guys that want to be playing Oline for the Steelers. Bottom line.
Couldn't have said it better than that.

Alan who?
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:47 PM   #12
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maybe a 'fair" assessment. but not a correct one.

saying the steelers offensive line is "weak" based soley on number of sacks given up, is like saying jerome bettis was weak based on his sub 4.0 YPC average.

whatever makes one feel better though...
I didn't say "Your" weak O-line.

I said "A" weak O-line.

The weakest spot (based on the past few seasons) on your offense is your O-line. In fact, that's been (with ST Coverage units) the weakest spot of your team the last couple of seasons. That's not to say that it's the worst line in the NFL, just that it's the weakest on your team.

There are also varying degrees of weakness to consider.

The weakest spot (for many years) for the Browns was our O-line, which led to a regression in stats, as well as (potentially) shortened careers for some guys who might have (otherwise) had a chance. (Timmy Couch, I'm thinking of you here).

Is your O-line as bad as the Browns 99-04? Nah, not even close. It's much better at run blocking (which is key) and still better at pass blocking than what we fielded a few years ago.

Try not to read further into what I type. When I have something to say about your team (or players), I'll state it simply. When I make a general statement, it is meant to be taken as a general statement.
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:48 PM   #13
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Default Re: Offensive Line Power Struggle

Am I the only one who noticed a drop off in Fanecas play?
The doomsday machine is writing off the o-line because of the sacks and the loss of Faneca.
I agree the sacks need to go down, but the oline was making way for the leagues leading rusher until he got hurt. They also allowed Ben to set personal passing records.
Even before the talk of Faneca going against the coaches , I thought the oline was better off without him. Although he was in his last year of his contract he didn't really play "audition" for a new contract. He new (and he was right) that some team would pay him based on his probowls! Alan is/was a great OG but the FO was right in letting him go. The point is, all this doomsday talk is just talk! The media and other teams fans are always looking for a reason to say the Steelers won't contend. You know what? In the last 15 years the Steelers outside of a few seasons have been one of the leagues top teams! Face it guys. like it or not the Steelers will always have naysayers.
And those naysayers can swing from my asshair!
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:17 PM   #14
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The weakest spot (for many years) for the Browns was our O-line, which led to a regression in stats, as well as (potentially) shortened careers for some guys who might have (otherwise) had a chance. (Timmy Couch, I'm thinking of you here).

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oh, ok.

cause i was gonna say that the steelers weakest spot (o-line) actually led to a progression of stats as well as yet another divisional crown.

but yeah, if there was any unit i could improve, it would be the o-line or special teams. but the o-line is not a finished product and sometimes it takes a team several years to adapt to a coaching change.

not much negative to say about our qb's, wr's, rb's or te's as all units are superb. ben still has tremendous upside and is nowhere near his potential best. the other 3 units are bonafide contenders yet still have made significant upgrades and progress in the last year.

what you see as the "weakest unit" of the bunch, i see as the "least stellar".

its all semantics....
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Can you imagine if the Steelers had been off to a start in 2007 like that in 2006 - Faneca would have been holding press conferenes to mourn the passage of the good old days when his OL coach and Alan could pound brewskies together after practice

IMO Faneca was a team cancer last year and all that kept him from engaging in a public diss of Tomlin's authority was that the team was winning until late in the year.

Faneca was a major talent but he apparently did everything but hang in his locker a picture of Grimm bordered in black crepe - even with a downgrade at the position that attitude had to go
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Can you imagine if the Steelers had been off to a start in 2007 like that in 2006 - Faneca would have been holding press conferenes to mourn the passage of the good old days when his OL coach and Alan could pound brewskies together after practice

IMO Faneca was a team cancer last year and all that kept him from engaging in a public diss of Tomlin's authority was that the team was winning until late in the year.

Faneca was a major talent but he apparently did everything but hang in his locker a picture of Grimm bordered in black crepe - even with a downgrade at the position that attitude had to go

Yep.

Actuall[y, I had the feeling all year last year. I simply was not happy with him and was not impressed with his playing.
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Alan is certainly a great player. I don't know if all his probowl appearences went to his head, but there seems to have been a real power struggle for coach Z.

His play will be hard to replace, but I think we will be better for it.
His play from about 2000 - 2005? Yeah.

His play from the last two years? Nope.
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His play from about 2000 - 2005? Yeah.

His play from the last two years? Nope.

yep.

i bet... just his absence will make this line better.
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:43 PM   #19
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His play from about 2000 - 2005? Yeah.

His play from the last two years? Nope.
I was speaking overall.
Hey, I'm just glad to get quoted. Even edited. Makes me feel more a part of all this.
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