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Old 08-10-2008, 01:33 AM   #1
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Russian jets targeted major oil pipeline-Georgia
09 Aug 2008 14:07:00 GMT
Source: Reuters

TBILISI, Aug 9 (Reuters) - Russian fighter jets targeted the the major Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline which carries oil to the West from Asia but missed, Georgia's Economic Development Minister Ekaterina Sharashidze said on Saturday. "This clearly shows that Russia has not just targeted Georgian economic outlets but international economic outlets in Georgia," she said at a news briefing. There have been no independent verifications of Russian jets targeting the BTC pipeline. (Reporting by Margarita Antidze, writing by James Kilner, editing by Jon Boyle)

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Russian fighter jets targeted the the major Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline which carries oil to the West from Asia but missed,
you know the pilots of those fighter jets that missed? if russia would like, we can wait for them to park their planes, get into their car and drive home, and as theyre putting the key into the lock of their front door, put a 500 pound bunker buster into their culo.

either their air force sucks or they were just messing around and trying to send a very threatening message. i would hope our CIA knows which one it is (im thinking the former).
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What is even more scary...

they went after Georgia partly BECAUSE THEY WERE MOVING TO JOIN NATO.

Thank through that.

They went to war to STOP a nation from joining NATO.

How scary is that?

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L9197241.htm

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yep, and georgia is our ally. im sure g-dub will have a few messages when he gets back from the olympics in china.
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yep, and georgia is our ally. im sure g-dub will have a few messages when he gets back from the olympics in china.

I think the press inadvertently caught him having a few words with Putin during the opening.

I really don't trust Russia... especially with Iran playing games. It just has WAY too much of a feel of the cold war...
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Iran's intentions are pretty obvious...wipe Israel off the map and then it's the U.S.'s turn.

Russia though, kinda scares me.

I'm not really up to all the facts on this developing conflict...why would/is Russia attacking Georgia? What do they have to gain here? Oil assets?

I guess I just don't understand it yet. Then again, who exactly does understand Russia?
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It could possibly part of a economic war on the U.S. So much as a fart on the oil that supplies the west and prices go through the roof. Russia and Iran seem to be buddying up together and throw China in there with em and the chits gonna hit the fan.
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Russia though, kinda scares me.

I'm not really up to all the facts on this developing conflict...why would/is Russia attacking Georgia? What do they have to gain here? Oil assets?

I guess I just don't understand it yet. Then again, who exactly does understand Russia?
This is totally about oil.

Georgia plans to connect their massive oil supply to the pipes heading to Turkey and not russia.

This is a grab to secure the oil for Russian use. Nothing more.

Terms like ethnic cleansing are designed to divert from the real situation.
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Its sphere of influence politics; Russia does not want NATO members on its borders.

Since the U.S. needs Russia on bigger issues (Iran), Georgia is going to find out it guessed wrong if it thought the U.S. and/or European Community were going to make any serious effort to make Russia back down.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/wo...tml?ref=europe

The high price of oil is not just about adverse impacts on our economy; it finances "petro-states" like Russia and Iran.

A renascent and increasingly bellicose Russia is an ominous spectacle for the West too. While China preaches, and largely practices, the doctrine of “peaceful rise,” avoiding confrontation abroad in order to focus on development at home, Russia acts increasingly like an expansionist 19th-century power, pressing at its borders. Most strikingly, Russia has bluntly deployed its vast oil and gas resources to punish refractory neighbors like Ukraine, and reward compliant ones like Armenia.

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I kind of dig this...let's spin the whole cold war back up, KGB vs. CIA mark II, good spy movies, an enemy we know will never actually attack us and vice verse.

"The Evil Empire" is back, baby!
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