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Old 08-20-2008, 01:59 PM   #1
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Default sportswriters jumping off browns bandwagon already

looks like season draws nearer, the oasis of talent known as the browns is appearing to be just a mirage. peter king has a real nice rip job in yesterdays article. better to jump ship now, than to appear a fool later.

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- The problem with preseason football, other than the fact it's preseason football, is you never have any idea what it means. Never. Having said that, I am questioning all the love I've thrown the Browns way this off-season. It would impossible not to, after being in the house for the first 17 minutes -- which took about four days -- of Cleveland's preseason loss to the Giants here Monday.

Keep in mind that in the second preseason game, the starters usually play a quarter, or a little more than a quarter. Or 17 minutes, roughly. So this wasn't the 78th guy on the roster screwing up for 17 minutes. It was the third, and 11th, and 15th.

In the first 17 minutes, the Browns fell behind 30-3. Derek Anderson was off-target and inaccurate on even the dumpoffs, screwed up a handoff with Jamal Lewis (looked to be equal blame on both sides) that the Giants picked up and ran for a touchdown, felt pressured constantly behind a line that's supposed to be very good, and finally got steamrolled into a concussion on a vicious Osi Umenyiora sack 90 seconds into the second quarter. The special teams were so awful I don't know where to begin. Maybe on the worst two consecutive plays in preseason history in the first quarter -- a punt Dave Zastudil kicked into his own blocker, Travis Thomas. Followed by Zastudil's free kick that Domenik Hixon ran back 82 yards for a touchdown -- and he was touched by exactly one Brown. The secondary, particularly under-pressure corner Eric Wright, was strafed by Eli Manning for a touchdown and a 53-yard interference penalty when he was badly beaten by Sinorice Moss. Cleveland had 128 yards of penalties, 15 coming when linebacker Andra Davis took a wild swing at a Giant after a play.

And Josh Cribbs injured an ankle. I don't know how long he or Anderson will be out.

Other than that, Mr. Crennel, how did you like the play?

"We didn't have enough poise,'' Crennel said. "We're not very good right now.''

A few things worry me about Cleveland now. The secondary, obviously. The Browns knew it was going to be a work in progress, especially at corner with young starters Wright and Brandon McDonald. They've got to get Shaun Rogers (shoulder) back healthy, which he should be for the opener so he can push the pocket and help take the pressure off the corners. Rogers and Corey Williams containing the rush is a worry, because we haven't seen them do it yet (though Rogers was stout early against the Jets last week) and the Browns gave up 4.5 yards a carry last year. And Anderson simply has to be more accurate than he was late last season (he completed 53 percent in his five December games), particularly with a rush in his face. That was troublesome Monday.
to address their weak secondary, the browns give an undisclosed pick to miami for cb travis daniels (whoever the hell that is).
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Old 08-20-2008, 03:11 PM   #2
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Travis Daniels is a decent player from his stats. 3 interceptions, 95 tackles, 19 pass def. in 44 career games. He is 25 years old.
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Old 08-20-2008, 03:19 PM   #3
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Default Re: sportswriters jumping off browns bandwagon already

All i know is, there is a guy here at work that's a huge Browns fan and keeps saying they have the toughest schedule. I told him once that you don't, Pittsburgh does, you have the second toughest schedule. After i corrected him a few months back, I've heard him say it again at least twice. D-bag.
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Old 08-20-2008, 03:27 PM   #4
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Default Re: sportswriters jumping off browns bandwagon already

Did anyone see the graphic about the Browns wins last season and who they came against? The teams they lost to had a winning percentage of like .575, and the teams they beat had a winning percentage of like .323.

It's easy to win 10 games if you play and beat a bunch of shitty teams.
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Default Re: sportswriters jumping off browns bandwagon already

travis daniels is better than mike adams, that's for sure

Eric Wright is good, but he is bound to give up some plays like we saw on monday.

I was truly impressed by quinn. that kid should start over anderson before the end of the season

that said....I hope people stay on their bandwagon and doubt the steelers. will be much sweeter when they kick their asses
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Everything I've read here can be summed up in 3 words.

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All i know is, there is a guy here at work that's a huge Browns fan and keeps saying they have the toughest schedule. I told him once that you don't, Pittsburgh does, you have the second toughest schedule. After i corrected him a few months back, I've heard him say it again at least twice. D-bag.
I'm thinking you've got it wrong. I am pretty sure ours is the 5th toughest in the league and only the 2nd toughest in our division.
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Default Re: sportswriters jumping off browns bandwagon already

I'm pretty sure I Don't Fear The Browns
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It must suck looking forward going 0-2 to start.
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Default Re: sportswriters jumping off browns bandwagon already

The Browns did last year the same thing the Bengals did in 2005.

They made a large jump in the win column playing a last place schedule.

Now the Browns have to play a second place schedule where hte face a lot of better teams than last year...I say they go 8-8 or 7-9.
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