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Old 09-15-2008, 03:04 PM   #1
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Default Ron Cook: I disagree, and agree.

To let you know what I disagree/and agree with:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08259/912337-66.stm

I'm not saying he's (Big Ben) the best in the league right now, but he's gotta be top 5.

It's NOT just Holmes, and Ward that make him look good. It's plenty other things as well.

You all saw the passes that were dropped by NOT just Ward, and Tony. But how about the pass he through PERFECTLY, I mean...WOW....to Parker. In Willies deffence, he's not a reciever. But WOW! What a pass!

I get what Cook is driving at. I just don't believe that 2 recievers are the only reason Big Ben looks good.
Maybe I'm either reading his column wrong, or reading into it too much....dunno.

Just my first post, so...eh.
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:28 PM   #2
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Default Re: Ron Cook: I disagree, and agree.

That was a beautiful pass to Willie, would have been better if caught. But like stated, tough catch for a RB in that situation.
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Old 09-15-2008, 04:03 PM   #3
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Default Re: Ron Cook: I disagree, and agree.

Easily Ben is among the best in the NFL....Like to know what Steelers fans and how many thought Mr. Cook was over-rating him....I guess Ben still hasn't won over all of the Stiller Nation...lol
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Old 09-15-2008, 04:25 PM   #4
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Default Re: Ron Cook: I disagree, and agree.

Does anybody else think that on the pass to Willie was just a slick ball? It was a beautiful pass, and defiantly catchable in any other situation. He played pretty good last night, even when throwing into the wind, considering how bad Anderson looked.
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Old 09-15-2008, 04:33 PM   #5
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Default Re: Ron Cook: I disagree, and agree.

well ben was alrdy considered to be top 3 qb in the league.. and w/ brady out and manning looking hella shitty.. i can see him number 1
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Old 09-15-2008, 05:10 PM   #6
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Default Re: Ron Cook: I disagree, and agree.

Disagree. Ward dropped a couple passes, and he MAY be slipping a bit as of late. I do not include Ward in the elite NFL WR corp any more, although I still love having him on the team for his toughness. It could be argued that many teams have better WR's than the Steelers.

Ever stop to consider that maybe Ben is making these guys look better?
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Old 09-15-2008, 05:39 PM   #7
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Default Re: Ron Cook: I disagree, and agree.

I think it's a good combination of good WR and good QB making each other better.

That long ball to Santo in the second half was a classic example of the WR doing the QB more favors...but at the same time, the placement on a couple of Hines drops was perfect...if caught. The endzone drop (before his TD) was the QB making it easy on a WR...but the WR not doing the QB any favors.

Is Hines slipping? Hard to tell, it was a windy/rainy game that the best all-time would struggle in...let alone Hines who is a more than good WR still (IMO).

Is Ben Elite? He's certainly making a hell of a statement for that case to me. He's already the absolute best/most dangerous QB on the move/outside the pocket in the NFL.

Hines/Holmes/Heath as a WR corps elite? Maybe not, but any slippage by Hines is more than compensated by Holmes and Heath is just underrated/overlooked by bigger names. Very good, easily.

I was probably most impressed by Kemo's play. Hartwig wasn't getting as much push on Rogers (as some tried to credit him for), but Kemo was hellacious against him.

As of now, it's looking like the Steelers are the class of the AFC...which pretty much means class of the NFL. If only you could know how much it pains me to say that.
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As of now, it's looking like the Steelers are the class of the AFC...which pretty much means class of the NFL. If only you could know how much it pains me to say that.
Your entire post was very good. However, I wanted to address this part of it.

It shouldn't pain you, in fact, it should feel good. Deep down inside, it should feel good to say the Steelers are the Class of the AFC.

Join us. We accept your jump. Join us and be a True Steelers fan. It'll just take you going to a sports store, or even going online and buying, with your own dollars, your first Terrible Towel. All the pain will go away, you will feel free and alive again. You will see the light and feel empowered, enlightened and refreshed. It will be the cure for all that ails you (metaphorically speaking).

We welcome you with open arms.
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Default Re: Ron Cook: I disagree, and agree.

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Join us. We accept your jump. Join us and be a True Steelers fan. It'll just take you going to a sports store, or even going online and buying, with your own dollars, your first Terrible Towel. All the pain will go away, you will feel free and alive again. You will see the light and feel empowered, enlightened and refreshed. It will be the cure for all that ails you (metaphorically speaking).

We welcome you with open arms.
I got to disagree with you Dino. I don't know what team xfl2001fan is a fan of, but at least he's a true fan to his team. I have no respect for bandwagon fans that switch allegiance to whatever team is hot. I could no more respect xfl2001fan for switching to a Steelers fan than if he'd have switched to the patriots a few years back (like most patriots fans did).
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I got to disagree with you Dino. I don't know what team xfl2001fan is a fan of, but at least he's a true fan to his team. I have no respect for bandwagon fans that switch allegiance to whatever team is hot. I could no more respect xfl2001fan for switching to a Steelers fan than if he'd have switched to the patriots a few years back (like most patriots fans did).
Naaa... when fans finally see the light, you have to welcome them home!

I will tell you this much, if I was a Pats* fan, I would have stopped being one after spygate.

If our team is ever busted for doing something like that... I am done being a Steelers fan.

Bandwagon? Fair-weather fan? Nope. I just have standards.

How the heck did I get to that last point in this post? I think I just lost myself let alone anyone else.
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