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Old 09-16-2008, 06:20 PM   #21
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Make no mistake about it. If you own a small business and vote for Obama, you might as well just declare bankruptcy now. He will HAMMER you with additional taxes on top of the already unfair burden you carry as a small businessman.

McCain 100% FOR small business in the 110th, Obama only 50%
(This is from the National Federation for Independent Business' website, a political lobby for small and indie business)
http://capwiz.com/nfib/scorecard.xc?...scorecard=true

It gets worse in the 109th. McCain 100% for (again) and Obama only 12% for.

http://capwiz.com/nfib/scorecard/?ch...on=109&x=7&y=8

This is an angle of attack the Democrats DO NOT WANT TO TAKE. They will lose and lose badly on this issue. They tax the living shit out of small business namely because they are largely defenseless.
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Make no mistake about it. If you own a small business and vote for Obama, you might as well just declare bankruptcy now. He will HAMMER you with additional taxes on top of the already unfair burden you carry as a small businessman.

McCain 100% FOR small business in the 110th, Obama only 50%
(This is from the National Federation for Independent Business' website, a political lobby for small and indie business)
http://capwiz.com/nfib/scorecard.xc?...scorecard=true

It gets worse in the 109th. McCain 100% for (again) and Obama only 12% for.

http://capwiz.com/nfib/scorecard/?ch...on=109&x=7&y=8

This is an angle of attack the Democrats DO NOT WANT TO TAKE. They will lose and lose badly on this issue. They tax the living shit out of small business namely because they are largely defenseless.
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Make no mistake about it. If you own a small business and vote for Obama, you might as well just declare bankruptcy now. He will HAMMER you with additional taxes on top of the already unfair burden you carry as a small businessman.

McCain 100% FOR small business in the 110th, Obama only 50%
(This is from the National Federation for Independent Business' website, a political lobby for small and indie business)
http://capwiz.com/nfib/scorecard.xc?...scorecard=true

It gets worse in the 109th. McCain 100% for (again) and Obama only 12% for.

http://capwiz.com/nfib/scorecard/?ch...on=109&x=7&y=8

This is an angle of attack the Democrats DO NOT WANT TO TAKE. They will lose and lose badly on this issue. They tax the living shit out of small business namely because they are largely defenseless.
Want to screw over the country? Vote Obama.

Want a better country? Vote McCain.

Just say NObama and NOBiden.
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Make no mistake about it. If you own a small business and vote for Obama, you might as well just declare bankruptcy now. He will HAMMER you with additional taxes on top of the already unfair burden you carry as a small businessman.

McCain 100% FOR small business in the 110th, Obama only 50%
(This is from the National Federation for Independent Business' website, a political lobby for small and indie business)
http://capwiz.com/nfib/scorecard.xc?...scorecard=true

It gets worse in the 109th. McCain 100% for (again) and Obama only 12% for.

http://capwiz.com/nfib/scorecard/?ch...on=109&x=7&y=8

This is an angle of attack the Democrats DO NOT WANT TO TAKE. They will lose and lose badly on this issue. They tax the living shit out of small business namely because they are largely defenseless.
I'm a registered Independent, and I always choose to consider the source of the information. Just a quick Google of the NFIB came up with this:

CNNMONEY states that:

"the NFIB is a Pro-Republican group that directed 98% of its congressional
campaign contributions during the 2004 election cycle to Republicans."

The Puget Sound Business Journal (Seattle) stated that:


the organization is one of the most Republican-leaning associations in the
capital...
they also go on to say that:

" NFIB and the Bush administration do walk hand in hand, because we do see eye to eye," says White House SeniorAdviser Karl Rove, a longtime NFIB member..

Also the NFIB website says that Sen. John McCain is to Keynote the NFIB 2008 National Small-Business Summit.

They don't sound nonpartisan to me.

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But, now that you've posted this, I will have to educate myself with these specific bills, and why each voted they way they did. Thanks for posting!

I'm a small business owner, I make good money, and know of the many ways some businesses are able to manipulate the system so they pay much less taxes. Large businesses are the worst culprits of systematic manipulation, and they profit hugely. I know of many who purposefully show hardly any profit, thus pay less in taxes, but they are living a great life. Taxing them less just allows them to keep even more money. Since the economy has become a fiasco through the continued tax cuts to the rich, and we all prosper with higher volume in a good economic situation, why would I want to continue down the road of a larger gap between the have & have not? 60% of all taxpayers make under 70K, so why wouldn't they get a bigger tax break? Did not everyone prosper during the good economy? Didn't the tax cuts to the rich factor into the consequences we are in now? Why did we allow the change for the worse?

Just my questions, some-what rhetorical, that have yet to be answered. I'm still doing my homework.

If I were to vote today, I would vote Obama.
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I wil be glad when th election is over then one side can tell the other side "I told you so"

Myself I want "None of the Above" added to all ballots for people running for office, from Dog Catcher (Warden) on up to President.

Time to clean up the cesspool in Washington.
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We'd have flying cars that run on farts if McCain and Gore got together on a ticket!
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I'm a small business owner, I make good money, and know of the many ways some businesses are able to manipulate the system so they pay much less taxes. Large businesses are the worst culprits of systematic manipulation, and they profit hugely. I know of many who purposefully show hardly any profit, thus pay less in taxes, but they are living a great life. Taxing them less just allows them to keep even more money. Since the economy has become a fiasco through the continued tax cuts to the rich, and we all prosper with higher volume in a good economic situation, why would I want to continue down the road of a larger gap between the have & have not? 60% of all taxpayers make under 70K, so why wouldn't they get a bigger tax break? Did not everyone prosper during the good economy? Didn't the tax cuts to the rich factor into the consequences we are in now? Why did we allow the change for the worse?

Just my questions, some-what rhetorical, that have yet to be answered. I'm still doing my homework.

If I were to vote today, I would vote Obama.
I don't see it that way D, If there are "flaws" that allow the wealthy to pay less taxes, perhaps the tax codes should be fixed first. Why increase taxes if fixing the tax code would help? And again, if you raise taxes significantly on the wealthy they will purchase less and the people who are employed making the expensive things they desire or providing services will no longer have jobs. Then with less people employed and having less to spend, sales drop in general, inventories rise, more people get laid off, etc. It can be a recipe for economic disaster imo. Especially with the economy working through the current issues.

also, I'm not sure why you feel the "tax cuts" for the rich created this problem? Besides, it's 100% their money until the government takes it. I just see it as them being able to keep more of their hard earned money that they rightfully deserve.
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