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Old 09-25-2008, 10:46 AM   #11
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:59 AM   #12
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The guy never makes good adjustments. He moves all the offensive linemen around every other practice during camps and they never have the opportunity to gel with each other... There is no way anyone can convince me that Max Starks can not beat out Colon either. The guy is just standing there watching people go by him and then he tries to dive to make it look like he is actually trying. Colon is a joke on the Right side of our line. Sorry, if I am coming across so negative, but we havent played even close to the hardest part of our schedule yet... I just think that it is gonna be a long season if something doesnt happen on that line.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:24 AM   #13
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we do have a shit load of lb's on the team and i would think it would be hard for davis to dress... and for sweed.. i am a lil suprised by that but i would hope that sweed keeps working he'll get on the field and make some plays

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The only thing im upset with is the lack of OL draft picks this year..
I wasn't upset with our first two picks this year, based on the circumstances, and I had hoped they would start to address the line IMMEDIATELY following that.....However, what I am probably more upset that it was almost completely ignored last year, and other years to some degree as well. I certainly hope and pray the line comes together this year and things work out, but let's be honest, if the line falls apart this year, it should be surprising to noone. There have been line questions for a long time and little has been done to properly address it imho.

That being said, we have to work with what we have, so I am certainly hoping some adjustments are made based on what has been learned, and that this is simply a hiccup.

And of course we can start speculating about the linemen in next years draft. Right LLT?
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It's week 3. It's definitely time to fire Arians and Tomlin and the rest of the coaches. We can let Ben coach the team like Jim Thorpe did back in the 20's or whatever as a player/coach.

You know, whatever gives us the best chance to win...

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Yes. Yes you are.
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Tomlin is a bum.*

He's done nothing but take us to the playoffs 1 stinking time.*

Fire his ass.*

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My Vote In '09 Is New Coach New Coordinators
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My Vote In '09 Is New Coach New Coordinators
Yep, and people wonder why I'm scared to death of the prospect of a "diehard fan" taking over controlling interest in the team. Knee-jerk overreaction and extreme impatience like this is why. I'd really hate to see this team become the Redskins.
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Mike Tomlin doesn't have the final desicion in who is drafted, that's left up to the Director of Football Operations, Kevin Colbert and Dan Rooney. So we cannot lay all the blame on Tomlin when it comes to who is and isn't drafted.

Not to mention, we have only had two drafts in the Mike Tomlin era. And he inherited an offensive line that had problems. It's not like Cowher was asking Colbert to draft offensive linemen in the first two rounds.

And as for us not taking a ton of offensive linemen in this year's draft, lets look at who was taken at what spot on the OL and who the Steelers took in that round.

Round 1

1. Jake Long, OT Miami Dolphins
12. Ryan Clady, OT Denver Broncos
14. Chris Williams, OT Chicago Bears
15. Branden Albert, OG (now OT) Kansas City Chiefs
17. Gosder Cherilus, OT Detroit Lions
19. Jeff Otah, OT Carolina Panthers
21. Sam Baker, OT Atlanta Falcons
23. Rashard Mendenhall, Pittsburgh Steelers
26. Duane Brown, OT Houston Texans

First Round Breakdown: Every offensive lineman I wanted was taken before our pick. The only one taken after our first round pick was Duane Brown who I thought was a second rounder that the Texans reached for. I don't think he would have won a starting job in training camp, because he's no better than what we currently have at OT. We took the best player available to get value for our pick. And as for trading up, it takes two to do that. Maybe nobody wanted to trade down, or maybe their asking price was to high.

Round 2

8 (39). Chilo Rachal, OG San Fransisco 49ers
22 (53). Limas Sweed, WR Pittburgh Steelers

Second Round Breakdown: Only one offensive lineman taken the entire round. Basicly, this draft had a bunch of first rounder prospects, then after that it really drops off.

Round 3

2 (65). John Greco, OT St. Louis Rams
20 (83). Jeremy Zuttah, OG Tampa Bay Buccaneers
25 (88). Bruce Davis, DE (now OLB) Pittsburgh Steelers
33 (96). Chad Rinehart, OT Washington Redskins
36 (99). Oniel Cousins, OG Baltimore Ravens

Third Round Breakdown: Once more, guys that wouldn't make an impact on our current line, so we went for LB depth.

Round 4

8 (107). Cody Wallace, OL San Fransisco 49ers
9 (108). Kory Lichtensteiger, OG Denver Broncos
10 (109). Mike McGlynn, OT Philadelphia Eagles
11 (110). Shawn Murphy, OT Miami Dolphins
13 (112). Anthony Collins, OT Cincinnati Bengals
31 (130). Tony Hills, OT Pittsburgh Steelers
34 (133). David Hale, OT Baltimore Ravens
36 (135). Josh Sitton, OT Green bay Packers

Fourth Round Overview: Lots of o-line picks, including one by the Steelers. However, none of these guys would win a starting spot on our line without injury to guys in front of them.

Round 5

15 (150). Breno Giacomini, OT Green Bay Packers
21 (156). Dennis Dixon, QB Pittsburgh Steelers
22 (157). Roy Schuening, OG St. Louis Rams
29 (164). Carl Nicks, OT New Orleans Saints

Fifth Round Overview: Three offensive linemen taken, we take a QB who can be used as a "Slash" type player or groomed as the future backup QB and possible trade bait. Once again, nobody who will make an impact.

Round 6

4 (170). Barry Richardson, OT Kasas City Chiefs
18 (184). Mike Gibson, OT Philadelphia Eagles
22 (188). Mike Humpal, LB Pittsburgh Steelers
29 (195). Donald Thomas, OG Miami Dolphins
35 (201). Steve Justice, C Indianapolis Colts

Sixth Round Overview: More of the same.

Round 7

4 (211). Nate Garner, OT New York Jets
12 (219). Demetrius Bell, OT Buffalo Bills
15 (222). Chester Adams, OT Chicago Bears
23 (230). King Dunlap, OT Philadelphia Eagles
27 (234). Corey Clark, OT San Diego Chargers
29 (236). Jamey Richard, OL Indianolis Colts
34 (241). Geoff Shwartz, OL Carolina Panthers
43 (250). Mackenzy Bernadeau, OG Carolina Panthers

Seventh Round Overview: We didn't have a pick. Lots of o-linemen taken. Most probally cut or on pracrice squads...no impact players once again.

So once again, someone please point out someone available to us whom we could have taken who would make this offensive line better? There was nobody available who would be able to step in and make this line better.

So please, stop bitching about the Steelers not drafting heavy on the o-line in this most recent draft.

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