In Defense of Mike Tomlin - Page 5

revefsreleets · 09-29-2008, 06:47 PM

Cowher had a pretty bad OL in 1999. That was the year I think they had to move Bruener to play tackle at times. They were 6-10 and that OL SUCKED. The line the next year was not much better, but by 2001 they went 13-3 (with a LOT of the same lineman from the year before).

fansince'76 · 09-29-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OX1947

I do not remember seeing guys waltzing in like nothing that year though.

Nine sacks by the Ratbirds in one game, 14 sacks over both games. All on Ben? Nope.

***tony hipchest*** · 09-29-2008, 07:06 PM

in defense of tomlin, chris mortensen reported he had a nice little talk with bruce arians last monday morning.

sounded like a shape up or ship out convo. take it for what its worth. its from ESPCNN .

Petesburgh66 · 09-30-2008, 01:24 AM

The OL was horrible before Tomlin came in. The front office has failed to address this issue for a while. So how the heck can you blame Tomlin for this?

steelwall · 09-30-2008, 02:33 AM

Because Tomlin is the HC, if he can't put a foot up the A hole, or find a solution then it is totally on him.

Personally I like Tomlin as a HC but his staff needs a swift kick in the arse.

steeltheone · 09-30-2008, 06:40 AM

We had a cup cake schedule last year.......We should have been 10 and 6 or better

Blitzburgh_Fever · 09-30-2008, 07:20 AM

Tomlin's learning, but he's come a long ways.

Last year we had huge issues going into the season with our LBing corp. Now we have arguably the strongest pair of OLB, three MLB that would be starters for any 3-4 or 4-3, and a backup in Keyaron Fox that could probably start on half the teams. Not bad for a guy given one draft class (yes, he got lucky on Harrison, but Timmons and Woodley panned out so well losing Clark Haggans wasn't a problem and many call for Foote to be demoted).

This year we got a HB that looked good, before getting injured. Sweed who many predicted would be the only receiver to go in the first round before his injury, a former Heismann-worthy QB, and another bolster to our LB corps.

Oh, and Russell and Stapleton look like pretty good UDFA pickups.

His only questionable coaching decisions so far have been challenges, and this year he's been pretty on. I agree with the call to go for a touchdown in the Eagles game after hearing his reasoning.

Mike Tomlin is a solid coach who, instead of relying on his talented team his first year, played to their strengths and let Ben help design the playbook. We have a tenacious no-huddle offense because Tomlin isn't afraid to spread some responsibility. I'm pretty sure St. Louis, Oakland, Baltimore, and Miami would kill to have Tomlin after seeing how good he is. That's only mentioning teams who need coaches from last year or this year. Carolina, Indianapolis, San Francisco, etc that are potentially in the market for a new coach in ~2 years are hoping they don't get slammed with a bad coach.

revefsreleets · 09-30-2008, 08:53 AM

The Steelers definitely made some adjustments at halftime last night, too...

09-29-2008, 06:47 PM	#41
revefsreleets Living Legend Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Akron, Ohio Home of LeBron James Posts: 15,403 Gender: Male Member Number: 5353 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: In Defense of Mike Tomlin Cowher had a pretty bad OL in 1999. That was the year I think they had to move Bruener to play tackle at times. They were 6-10 and that OL SUCKED. The line the next year was not much better, but by 2001 they went 13-3 (with a LOT of the same lineman from the year before). __________________ *Official Steelersfever Arians Nuthugger*

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09-30-2008, 07:20 AM	#47
Blitzburgh_Fever Starter Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 471 Member Number: 7228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: In Defense of Mike Tomlin Tomlin's learning, but he's come a long ways. Last year we had huge issues going into the season with our LBing corp. Now we have arguably the strongest pair of OLB, three MLB that would be starters for any 3-4 or 4-3, and a backup in Keyaron Fox that could probably start on half the teams. Not bad for a guy given one draft class (yes, he got lucky on Harrison, but Timmons and Woodley panned out so well losing Clark Haggans wasn't a problem and many call for Foote to be demoted). This year we got a HB that looked good, before getting injured. Sweed who many predicted would be the only receiver to go in the first round before his injury, a former Heismann-worthy QB, and another bolster to our LB corps. Oh, and Russell and Stapleton look like pretty good UDFA pickups. His only questionable coaching decisions so far have been challenges, and this year he's been pretty on. I agree with the call to go for a touchdown in the Eagles game after hearing his reasoning. Mike Tomlin is a solid coach who, instead of relying on his talented team his first year, played to their strengths and let Ben help design the playbook. We have a tenacious no-huddle offense because Tomlin isn't afraid to spread some responsibility. I'm pretty sure St. Louis, Oakland, Baltimore, and Miami would kill to have Tomlin after seeing how good he is. That's only mentioning teams who need coaches from last year or this year. Carolina, Indianapolis, San Francisco, etc that are potentially in the market for a new coach in ~2 years are hoping they don't get slammed with a bad coach.

09-30-2008, 08:53 AM	#48
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