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Old 10-07-2008, 07:14 PM   #21
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Malcom Jenkins / Ohio St.
Vontae Davis / Jr / Ill.
D.J. Moore / Jr / Vandy.

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Myron Rolle / Jr / Florida St.
William Moore / Miss.
Screw those guys, if they're gone in the 1st 3 rounds then i want no part of them. We don't need to be dicking around with DBs, we need a younger DL and an OL that will give Big Ben the protection he deserves and the protection he needs to remain healthy enough to play by the time Ben's plays out his rich contract.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:10 PM   #22
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They made no attempt to sign Smith. They might have been able to extend his deal and lessen the cap count for this season. He appears to be on the way out the door just like Faneca last season.....but Smith is being a pro about it.

I think they may try the market and might end up paying more for a good younger OT like Jordan Gross or end up holding the bag on a guy that can play but is over the hill like Tra Thomas.
I was in favour of extending Smith this year, then drafting somebody next year that can step in by 2010 or 2011 when Smith could be released or traded.
It is not the steeler way to draft and start an O lineman especially a LT .

I tend to agree that they will go after a free agent LT and would like to draft Mack (1st) but probably get Luigs (2nd) for the future. Then they can spend next year behind Hartwig and take over the center duties for the next 9 - 10 years.

A tackle will be drafted in the 2nd or 3rd (Fenuki Tupou, Jamon Meredith or Jason Smith are some possibilities) and they will be given time to develop. Unfortunately that means one of the current tackles ( Colon) will be starting next year at RT.

I find it interesting that some of the big name DE/DT's are sliding down some draft boards as the college season progresses. Both Moala and Tyson Jackson are listed as 2nd rounders on some boards.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:51 PM   #23
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It is not the steeler way to draft and start an O lineman especially a LT .

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maybe so aussie, but the steelers didn't used to neglect the lines for 5 yrs strait either.....this thought running around here that a rookie can't start is total B.S. ....just because cowher or noll never started a rookie, doesn't meen that TOMLIN wouldn't....desperate times call for desperate measures.
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I love the chance of Mack playing for 10 seasons in B&G too. It all depends if they can solidify the LT position in the offseason. IMO, Starks, Hills or Essex are not good options at LT and Marvel Smith appears to be on the way out.

Actually, I think Essex is pretty good at that position. But will he continue there... or will they upgrade it in the draft? I don't know.

I prefer they allow Essex to play and focus on the center and right side of the line in this draft.
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maybe so aussie, but the steelers didn't used to neglect the lines for 5 yrs strait either.....this thought running around here that a rookie can't start is total B.S. ....just because cowher or noll never started a rookie, doesn't meen that TOMLIN wouldn't....desperate times call for desperate measures.
No... rookies CAN start... they just usually never do, because we seldom ever draft for position... instead we draft BAP in the rounds that could impact a team in year one... and those players usually end up behind some other good players for a time.
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No... rookies CAN start... they just usually never do, because we seldom ever draft for position... instead we draft BAP in the rounds that could impact a team in year one... and those players usually end up behind some other good players for a time.
yeah....but when you don't have " good " players in front of you, then you should get the start.
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yeah....but when you don't have " good " players in front of you, then you should get the start.
I agree with that view totally MOP and Preach.

If this season pans out to be a successful as it is looking I just dont see a quality LT being on the board when it comes time to draft.

The only quick fix is via free agency. The long term path is via a good quality pick in the first 2 rounds. The best option IMO is to combine the two and seriously address this unit.

What could ben and FWP really achieve behind a line that dominates?
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I prefer they allow Essex to play and focus on the center and right side of the line in this draft.
i agree and nfldraftcountdown.com has us taking alex mack the center from CAL... who is a prospect i have no qualms about.

btw they have us picking 31st... (superbowl anyone?)
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I agree with that view totally MOP and Preach.

If this season pans out to be a successful as it is looking I just dont see a quality LT being on the board when it comes time to draft.

The only quick fix is via free agency. The long term path is via a good quality pick in the first 2 rounds. The best option IMO is to combine the two and seriously address this unit.

What could ben and FWP really achieve behind a line that dominates?
keep in mind....you CAN, bargain with future draft choices. i'd go so far as to say i'd give up every pick this year, and next year for two starting quality Olinemen (top 20 picks), two Dlinemen,that dress on sundays ( 2nd rd), and a promising cornerback. ( comp pick) .... we have depth everywhere else, and there's always free agency.
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Screw those guys, if they're gone in the 1st 3 rounds then i want no part of them. We don't need to be dicking around with DBs, we need a younger DL and an OL that will give Big Ben the protection he deserves and the protection he needs to remain healthy enough to play by the time Ben's plays out his rich contract.
All those guys will most likely be gone by pick 20 in the 1st round, so I don't think you will have to worry about it much.
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