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Old 10-01-2008, 07:29 PM   #1
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Default Hartwig's performance

Anyone have an opinion on how Hartwig played against Ravens. I wanted to go back and re-watch the game and key in on the offensive line but my wife erased the game on our TIVO. I was so busy chewing my nails, cursing and pacing that I didn't really watch anything besides Ben and where the ball was going. Obviously the second half there were no sacks so that is promising, but doesn't tell the whole story.
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Old 10-01-2008, 07:46 PM   #2
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Default Re: Hartwigs performance

coincidentally I just turned on NFL network and found the game on. It is the start of the 3rd quarter now.
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Old 10-02-2008, 12:00 PM   #3
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I have only rewatched the 1st quarter on my PVR and so far Hartwig has looked solid.

Again, he is no 2nd coming of Dermonti Dawson IMO, but more of a bigger and less athletic version of Hartings.
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Old 10-02-2008, 12:05 PM   #4
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Default Re: Hartwigs performance

Ben didn't get the shit beat out of him quite so badly last game, so that's a definite improvement for the line.

Still, at least for the first 2-3 quarters, we only improved from a F to an F-plus.
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Old 10-02-2008, 12:11 PM   #5
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Ben didn't get the shit beat out of him quite so badly last game, so that's a definite improvement for the line.

Still, at least for the first 2-3 quarters, we only improved from a F to an F-plus.
Yeah, according to some sack breakdown analysis......the O-line was responsible for 4 of the 9 sacks vs the Eagles, but only 1 of the 3 vs the Ravens. So a definate improvement.

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Old 10-02-2008, 03:18 PM   #6
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I wonder how much of that was going to the no-huddle...

how much of that was Arians cutting down the play book and just letting the guys play...

and how much of that was Ben threatening to put a foot up their rear-ends...


probably all of the above.
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Old 10-02-2008, 03:22 PM   #7
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it seems that the no-huddle did work and hopefully we will use it more in the future..
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I wonder how much of that was going to the no-huddle...

how much of that was Arians cutting down the play book and just letting the guys play...

and how much of that was Ben threatening to put a foot up their rear-ends...


probably all of the above.
You are probably correct. All of the credit for a win should goto Ben and Arians. Only the blame for loss should be put on the guys in the trenches
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You are probably correct. All of the credit for a win should goto Ben and Arians. Only the blame for loss should be put on the guys in the trenches


Naaa... Notice that phrase... "Letting the guys play"

I do think that Arians was overburdening them with schemes. I just couldn't say it that loud because everyone was screaming for him to be fired (overstatement, I know...).

It's like putting a bunch of sand in a bag... It needs to shake out, settle, the pockets get filled.. THEN we can determine what needs to be done. Arians cutting the scheming... and the line responding and playing better, and then Ben calling the plays all worked together.
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Default Re: Hartwigs performance

I'm still not overly impressed with Hartwig, but hey - I don't have to play behind him - Ben does and if he's OK with him, so be it.

I'm hoping the Steelers address the C spot either via FA or the draft in '09.
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