Hartwig's performance

cubanstogie · 10-01-2008, 07:29 PM

Anyone have an opinion on how Hartwig played against Ravens. I wanted to go back and re-watch the game and key in on the offensive line but my wife erased the game on our TIVO. I was so busy chewing my nails, cursing and pacing that I didn't really watch anything besides Ben and where the ball was going. Obviously the second half there were no sacks so that is promising, but doesn't tell the whole story.

cubanstogie · 10-01-2008, 07:46 PM

coincidentally I just turned on NFL network and found the game on. It is the start of the 3rd quarter now.

El-Gonzo Jackson · 10-02-2008, 12:00 PM

I have only rewatched the 1st quarter on my PVR and so far Hartwig has looked solid.

Again, he is no 2nd coming of Dermonti Dawson IMO, but more of a bigger and less athletic version of Hartings.

steelreserve · 10-02-2008, 12:05 PM

Ben didn't get the shit beat out of him quite so badly last game, so that's a definite improvement for the line.

Still, at least for the first 2-3 quarters, we only improved from a F to an F-plus.

El-Gonzo Jackson · 10-02-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by steelreserve

Ben didn't get the shit beat out of him quite so badly last game, so that's a definite improvement for the line.

Still, at least for the first 2-3 quarters, we only improved from a F to an F-plus.

Yeah, according to some sack breakdown analysis......the O-line was responsible for 4 of the 9 sacks vs the Eagles, but only 1 of the 3 vs the Ravens. So a definate improvement.

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=27693

Preacher · 10-02-2008, 03:18 PM

I wonder how much of that was going to the no-huddle...

how much of that was Arians cutting down the play book and just letting the guys play...

and how much of that was Ben threatening to put a foot up their rear-ends...

probably all of the above.

lilyoder6 · 10-02-2008, 03:22 PM

it seems that the no-huddle did work and hopefully we will use it more in the future..

El-Gonzo Jackson · 10-02-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Preacher

I wonder how much of that was going to the no-huddle...

how much of that was Arians cutting down the play book and just letting the guys play...

and how much of that was Ben threatening to put a foot up their rear-ends...

probably all of the above.

You are probably correct. All of the credit for a win should goto Ben and Arians. Only the blame for loss should be put on the guys in the trenches

Preacher · 10-02-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson

You are probably correct. All of the credit for a win should goto Ben and Arians. Only the blame for loss should be put on the guys in the trenches

Naaa... Notice that phrase... "Letting the guys play"

I do think that Arians was overburdening them with schemes. I just couldn't say it that loud because everyone was screaming for him to be fired (overstatement, I know...).

It's like putting a bunch of sand in a bag... It needs to shake out, settle, the pockets get filled.. THEN we can determine what needs to be done. Arians cutting the scheming... and the line responding and playing better, and then Ben calling the plays all worked together.

HometownGal · 10-02-2008, 04:12 PM

I'm still not overly impressed with Hartwig, but hey - I don't have to play behind him - Ben does and if he's OK with him, so be it.

I'm hoping the Steelers address the C spot either via FA or the draft in '09.

10-01-2008, 07:29 PM	#1
cubanstogie Assistant Coach Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,483 Member Number: 3082 Thanks: 5 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Hartwig's performance Anyone have an opinion on how Hartwig played against Ravens. I wanted to go back and re-watch the game and key in on the offensive line but my wife erased the game on our TIVO. I was so busy chewing my nails, cursing and pacing that I didn't really watch anything besides Ben and where the ball was going. Obviously the second half there were no sacks so that is promising, but doesn't tell the whole story.

10-01-2008, 07:46 PM	#2
cubanstogie Assistant Coach Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,483 Member Number: 3082 Thanks: 5 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Hartwigs performance coincidentally I just turned on NFL network and found the game on. It is the start of the 3rd quarter now.

10-02-2008, 12:00 PM	#3
El-Gonzo Jackson Living Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 7,901 Member Number: 8264 Thanks: 25 Thanked 150 Times in 114 Posts	Re: Hartwigs performance I have only rewatched the 1st quarter on my PVR and so far Hartwig has looked solid. Again, he is no 2nd coming of Dermonti Dawson IMO, but more of a bigger and less athletic version of Hartings.

10-02-2008, 12:05 PM	#4
steelreserve Goatse + Tubgirl = $$$ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: www.meatspin.com Posts: 4,599 Member Number: 1976 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hartwigs performance Ben didn't get the shit beat out of him quite so badly last game, so that's a definite improvement for the line. Still, at least for the first 2-3 quarters, we only improved from a F to an F-plus.

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Preacher Water Boy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3 Member Number: 16327 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hartwigs performance I wonder how much of that was going to the no-huddle... how much of that was Arians cutting down the play book and just letting the guys play... and how much of that was Ben threatening to put a foot up their rear-ends... probably all of the above.

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HometownGal Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The Burgh Posts: 21,479 Gender: Female Member Number: 2413 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hartwigs performance I'm still not overly impressed with Hartwig, but hey - I don't have to play behind him - Ben does and if he's OK with him, so be it. I'm hoping the Steelers address the C spot either via FA or the draft in '09. __________________ The Anti-Wahoo

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