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Old 12-04-2005, 07:28 PM   #11
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Default Re: After today's game

I'm still liking Ben Roethlisberger's former Miami of Ohio teammate.

Martin Nance WR 6’5 210 Miami(OH)
By: Robert Davis

When people started to take notice of Ben Roethlisberger his junior year, people had no choice but to notice Big Ben’s top target, sophomore Martin Nance. He absolutely exploded onto the college football map that year with 90 catches for 1,498 yards and 11 touchdowns. As a junior, he was off to another fast start. In the first four games of the 2004 season, Nance had 25 catches for 337 yards, and a touchdown. On the first play of the 5th game that season however, Nance injured his knee and missed the rest of the season.

Martin Nance is a flat out playmaker. At 6’5, with great athleticism, and jumping ability, he is nearly unstoppable in one on one situations. He’s not just big though, he has very good straight-line speed. He can get deep, and won’t be caught if he gets a step on you. Some people questioned if his success in 2003 was due to Roethlisberger, but he showed early on in 2004, and has shown again this year that he is a talent.

Even though he is showing he is back from the knee injury in 2004, it is something teams will look into. Even though the MAC has gained some respect nationally, it still is not the most talented conference out there. With just over two years of experience on the field, he has not faced the most talented corners in college.

Nance fits the mold of the big, tall, athletic receiver teams have become enamored with lately. He has all the talent to be a star at the next level. With no true superstar at wide receiver, Nance could really move up in the post season. With his size and natural athletic gifts, he could end up being the first wideout selected in April.

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Old 12-04-2005, 08:09 PM   #12
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Default Re: After today's game

i think we need to draft a big back, i just realized lendale white is a junior and if he's smart he'll stay one more year to pick up his draft status. so now i have no idea who the running backs are in the draft are....... i wouldn't mind drafting big bens old teammate. but we need to work on the o-line, d-line, and rb postion first imo because we got heath to be that big target and if we'd use ARE or wilson more they could probably stretch the field more too.
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Old 12-04-2005, 08:28 PM   #13
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I'm not sure if he's going pro yet or not, but USC's third receiver, Steve Smith I think, is another receiver in the Hines Ward mold.

I don't think we need the deep threat. After seeing the last bunch of passes thrown by Ben deep, none of which were terribly accurate, I think what'd be better is some good, route-running receivers to cover the middle of the field.

We also need to work on TE routes. Last week in that Giants game, Shockey was open in the middle on every play. I'm betting Heath Miller could be the same kind of reciever if we played him that way.

What we need in the off-season is to acquire some decent offensive linemen. We always seem to have a couple that are good, and then a couple that are our Achillles heel.

We have some talent that just has to start playing better. Some of them are rookies or 2nd year guys that have to learn to start bringing their A games.
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I'm not sure if he's going pro yet or not, but USC's third receiver, Steve Smith I think, is another receiver in the Hines Ward mold.

I don't think we need the deep threat. After seeing the last bunch of passes thrown by Ben deep, none of which were terribly accurate, I think what'd be better is some good, route-running receivers to cover the middle of the field.

We also need to work on TE routes. Last week in that Giants game, Shockey was open in the middle on every play. I'm betting Heath Miller could be the same kind of reciever if we played him that way.

What we need in the off-season is to acquire some decent offensive linemen. We always seem to have a couple that are good, and then a couple that are our Achillles heel.

We have some talent that just has to start playing better. Some of them are rookies or 2nd year guys that have to learn to start bringing their A games.
Well, let's just assume Ben will not always be playing with a broken thumb.

Are you saying Ben will never be a credible deep passer and that we should therefore not attempt to develop a deep threat receiver?

IMO drafting another possession receiver is way down the list of needs of this team.
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I agree with Dan here. We have a lot of possession receivers right now. But not that big deep threat that opens the field up.
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:19 PM   #16
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It's not that I think he can't do it, it's that it's not really a strength of our team. It's not something that we do even a few times per game. I'd hate to blow money on some high priced receiver that comprises less than 5% of our offense.

We've always at least tried to be a methodical, clock-controlling offense, rather than one that tries to grab up yards in big chunks. Yeah, it's nice to see that from time to time, but it's not something we're going to do every game.
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:45 PM   #17
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No doubt we need a big WR and a RB. The most glaring hole is a pass rushing DE/LB though. We havent had on in a long time. Would be nice to get a sack without having to blitz. In the draft I'd go best available at those three positions. Kemo should start getting some burn too.
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I am not so sure we need to upgrade our line, we have Essex and Kemo coming up, we have one big injury right now, but Essex is getting a handle it seems. We need a big RB for sure, and some help with the OLB and DLine position IMO. Our corners are young and improving every game. I think Parker can carry the load next year but will need a good backup/3rd down back (maybe Staley can fill that role), because we may start opening up the passing a bit after last nights performance and that should make things easier for a Parker kind of runner.
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Kimo may retire or get released so we'll need a DL anyways, we need depth at MLB in the worst way, we're pretty set in the secondary for now as long as Hope returns and we can resign Ike..otherwise we'll be in trouble again.

We need OL depth in the worst way, and we need a big / tall WR.. even though Ben proved today our guys can get it done against a pretty good pass defense, it would be nice to have that big target to compliment Heath.
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Figg is right, we are lacking a pass rush. I like our LB but they don't seem to be effective the past 2 weeks. Is it just me or is Porter not looking as sharp as in the past? I don't think we need draft a LB early but we should draft one late. My main concerns are OL and DL I think we need to get some help on both sides.
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