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Old 10-28-2008, 04:42 AM   #31
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Default Re: Bad Route Running and lack of WR effort

Ben didn't have time for them to run alot of routes cause he was being pressured I think the wr did a good job with what little time Ben had to throw the ball.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:34 AM   #32
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Although I'm not completely sold on this, I foresee Arians being released in a few weeks after another poor performance by the Steelers offense and the play sheet being handed down to Ken Anderson. Regardless of whether this occurs during the season, Arians A$$ is definitely gone at seasons end, my very-reliable but unnamed source has assured me of it.
Kenny Anderson? Now that's an interesting thought.

I may have a fairly high post count, but I come here mainly to read and learn. While I'm not one to advocate Arians' firing as I'm not knowledgable enough on the subject to make that call, I do agree that marely squeaking by with win's when we have such powerful weapons at our disposal and a quarterback of Ben's caliber, combines with probably the best defense in the league is simply not acceptable.

Something, somewhere along the line has to change, and I wish it would sooner rather than later. This year, there is a real opportunity to grab the prize and we have the talent to do it.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:56 AM   #33
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1-I think 5 - 2 is a good record.

2-I think our defense is is excelent and consistently dependable.

3-Our special teams coverage is much improved but on ocassion allows longer than average kick off returns. I was very critical last year but not so this year.

4-Punt and kick off returns could be better. Since Randal El left we have not had the threat of breaking returns. We should consider this when we draft or in FA next year.

5-The offensive line is no longer a powerful part of the team's arsenal. The Steelers have not replenished their talent here and no longer can control the line of scrimmage. The pass protection is well below average. There is a need for much improvement both in the short run and the long run. Rebuild the offensive line even if it takes 2 more seasons ,2009/2010 which I believe it will. We wasted one draft and one Free Agency. Do not do this again.

6-Bruce Arian's play calling leaves much to be desired . He is not a top notch offensive coordinator . The Steelers are a quality franchise and can hire a proven successful offensive coordinator that fits their style . They can get the best OC possible . As long as Arian's remains as the offensive coordinator the threat of being out coached is hugh.

7-The Steelers have great tradition and great citizenry which is being up held by Mike Tomlin. He is a young coach and deserves a chance to optimize his coaching skills.

Conclusion let Arian go at season end and immediately start bringing in talented offensive linemen through the draft and Fa.

An acceptable record this year would be 10 & 6 which means we win 5 out of the last 10 games. We get into the play offs and anything can happen if we have the momentum of playing quality football and being relatively free from injuries.

Again I repeat my personal opinion it would be best to LET ARIAN GO AT SEASON END. He may have some talent and abilities that I am not aware of but consistent intelligent and effective play calling is not one of them.
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:28 AM   #34
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Default Re: Bad Route Running and lack of WR effort

The best athletes, coaches and even some fans, tend to primarily focus what went wrong. That's how you improve.

However, when a post is extremely negative or critical, and the poster doesn't have a real history of consistent / balanced posting yet, the points, valid or not, can be lost due to the way in which they are delivered imo......

Otherwise, great thread.
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:03 AM   #35
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Why wasn't anyone calling for the coordinator's head in 2005 when we lost a few games in a bad way????
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:21 AM   #36
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Why wasn't anyone calling for the coordinator's head in 2005 when we lost a few games in a bad way????
They were, actually. But then they went on the SB run, and all of that was forgotten. Funny how that works.
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:34 AM   #37
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Hmm, I bet you could take Arians job right? Sure, and replace Ward with TO or some other real route runner. Ok, no thanks. You think you have this all figured out but when it comes down to it, a player like Ward is worth his weight in gold. HIs value can't be scribbled down on paper or figured out by a fan.
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Old 10-28-2008, 12:03 PM   #38
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Default Re: Bad Route Running and lack of WR effort

I'll agree with Gonzo on this. I don't think the routes are run with "a lack of effort", but more by the design of the play.

While Arians may not be utilizing his weapons, these bunch plays have been in the Steelers playbook for years. He basically cut/streamlined the playbook (Whisenhunt's and every coordinators before) for Ben to take advantage of what he (Ben) liked. He may have added some signature plays, but I don't believe the playbook is/was entirely authored by him. That may be part of the problem, I don't know, but I don't think he should shoulder the blame for an offense that runs hot and cold. We are not getting any consistency.

The plays always look better when they are successful.
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