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Old 10-27-2008, 12:48 PM   #21
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You see, you guys are proving me right, right off the bat. Believe me, if I'm right about catching flak for pointing out the obvious, then you'll see how bad a coach this guy is down the road. But I highly doubt you'll remember these posts by then, huh?
This coach is 15-9 during the regular season. Which isn't shabby considering Cowher had simliar stats his first two years. A coach can only coach so much and then it comes down to player execution. If the players don't execute every play then it shows on the field - doesn't matter how much the coach has done (or not done by your reasoning) in preparation.

Tomlin is a good coach but eventually you've got to turn your head to the field and off the sidelines!
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:07 PM   #22
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I posted several weeks ago concerning the poor coaching skills of Mike Tomlin. As I stated then, and I reiterate now, here in this post.....This guy is bad news for the Pittsburgh Steelers! I know I will get all kinds of flak about making a statement like this, but I do not, and I will not change my course on this guy. He was ONLY hired due to the Rooney rule, and though he might very well be a "nice" guy, he is definitely NO NFL head coach. That was a horrible display of coaching yesterday, and there is absolutely NO excuse for the piss poor coaching job executed from Mike Tomlin! I will continue to post these kinds of posts as the weeks, months, and God forbid, years go by that this guy continues to destroy the Steelers, in order to make a point that I believe if everyone was honest with themselves about, they would see, so that hopefully we NEVER make this mistake again! (Hiring a guy that has NO potential as a head coach in the NFL for political reasons) Ben didn't look very good out there, granted, but his HEAD coaching staff didn't give him ANY opportunities to win the game. Where was the no huddle? That is when Ben is at his best! Yet putting the game into Big Bens hands was nowhere to be seen. How many times do you have to hit Miller over the middle to understand how effective that play is. They did it 3 times yesterday, all successfully I might add, and yet they continue to go away from what works! What is that????? And finally.......WHY IN THE WORLD....DID THEY NOT KICK THE LONG FIELD GOAL AT THE BOXED IN END OF THE FIELD?????? Does Tomlin not understand ANYTHING about momentum????? I'm seriously hacked off at the PISS poor coaching in that game! It was ours to lose, and thanks to Tomlin we did just that!
All I need to respond to is the field goal kicking... It was a 51 yard field goal - no easy feat to accomplish with a healthy FG unit. The long snapper, Greg Warren, was injured. It's obvious you know little about football, so I'll let you in on a little secret - long snapping isn't easy. Kicking field goals looks automatic on TV, but getting the ball from the long snapper to the holder, the holder getting the ball down, and the kicker getting in a clean hit on the ball takes some skill. There wasn't a good chance of the ball getting to the holder with makeshift LSer James Harrison in there. Why would you go for it? That would be bad coaching.

Everything else you said doen't even warrant a response.
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:09 PM   #23
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All I need to respond to is the field goal kicking... It was a 51 yard field goal - no easy feat to accomplish with a healthy FG unit. The long snapper, Greg Warren, was injured. It's obvious you know little about football, so I'll let you in on a little secret - long snapping isn't easy. Kicking field goals looks automatic on TV, but getting the ball from the long snapper to the holder, the holder getting the ball down, and the kicker getting in a clean hit on the ball takes some skill. There wasn't a good chance of the ball getting to the holder with makeshift LSer James Harrison in there. Why would you go for it? That would be bad coaching.

Everything else you said doen't even warrant a response.
Don't forget the fact that FGs of 50 or longer are virtually unmakeable at Heinz Field no matter which end you're kicking in. Going for it on fourth down is a higher percentage play.

He also doesn't know the Rooney Rule. The Steelers could have interviewed any minority candidate and were free to hire any coach they wanted.
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OK it is good to know after every loss i need to bring this with me into the SF forums
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Ben didn't look very good out there, granted, but his HEAD coaching staff didn't give him ANY opportunities to win the game. Where was the no huddle? That is when Ben is at his best! Yet putting the game into Big Bens hands was nowhere to be seen.
Unless I'm mistaken, Ben has plenty of say in what plays are called and what plays are scrapped. If Ben wants the no huddle (which they did go to early) all he has to do is say so.


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Its not Tomlins fault that his team is severly banged up and one player wanted to get high before a big game. I know alot of bad Teams that would love Tomlin and his 5-2 record this year.

Who would you have perfered? new coaches hire over the last couple yrs; Wade Phillips, Sean Payton, Cam Cameron, Mangini, Scott Linehan? I would Take Tomlin over all those guys! The grass isnt always greener buddy.
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I posted several weeks ago concerning the poor coaching skills of Mike Tomlin. As I stated then, and I reiterate now, here in this post.....This guy is bad news for the Pittsburgh Steelers! I know I will get all kinds of flak about making a statement like this, but I do not, and I will not change my course on this guy. He was ONLY hired due to the Rooney rule, and though he might very well be a "nice" guy, he is definitely NO NFL head coach. That was a horrible display of coaching yesterday, and there is absolutely NO excuse for the piss poor coaching job executed from Mike Tomlin! I will continue to post these kinds of posts as the weeks, months, and God forbid, years go by that this guy continues to destroy the Steelers, in order to make a point that I believe if everyone was honest with themselves about, they would see, so that hopefully we NEVER make this mistake again! (Hiring a guy that has NO potential as a head coach in the NFL for political reasons) Ben didn't look very good out there, granted, but his HEAD coaching staff didn't give him ANY opportunities to win the game. Where was the no huddle? That is when Ben is at his best! Yet putting the game into Big Bens hands was nowhere to be seen. How many times do you have to hit Miller over the middle to understand how effective that play is. They did it 3 times yesterday, all successfully I might add, and yet they continue to go away from what works! What is that????? And finally.......WHY IN THE WORLD....DID THEY NOT KICK THE LONG FIELD GOAL AT THE BOXED IN END OF THE FIELD?????? Does Tomlin not understand ANYTHING about momentum????? I'm seriously hacked off at the PISS poor coaching in that game! It was ours to lose, and thanks to Tomlin we did just that!

So...

You are saying this man was only hired because he is black? Is that right?

His SKIN COLOR got him his job?

I just want to be clear on this...
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You are saying this man was only hired because he is black? Is that right?

His SKIN COLOR got him his job?

I just want to be clear on this...
I'm not sure how he could say that Preach. If I recall, Russ Grim was almost assured to get the job until Mike Tomlin came along and impressed the Sh*t out of everyone. But you're correct in questioning this fool.

I'm glad we have Mike Tomlin. I'm wondering if Bruce Arians still deserves my allegience, but Tomlin is good quality all around.
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Not kicking the field goal was a major blunder. It would've put them up by 7 and built some momentum. Not being as clearheaded as usual at the time, I was thinking back today and figuring that Warren had already been injured at that point....or maybe Reed was hurting, though he had been kicking off pretty well. So why in the hell did they not kick it?
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