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Old 10-27-2008, 04:44 PM   #1
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Default Obama - What has he done?

http://obama.senate.gov/press/070111-lugar-obama_non/

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http://obama.senate.gov/press/060929-congress_to_pas/

http://obama.senate.gov/press/050922-obama_amendment/

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Let me add a big one. He beat the Clintons in the primary. That in and of itself is amazing.
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I'm sure you won't like this. But....ONE

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OBAMA ??

You gotta be kidding me.

He gets no yards on first down. Gets dropped behind the LOS NUMEROUS times.

Then gets a 30 or 40 yard run to make his stats look good.





Oh what.. OBAMA. I thought this was another hate Willie P. thread.

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I disagree with people who say Obama is not qualified due to a lack of experience. There are a couple reasons why, in addition to his legislative achievements. First, there isn't really any evidence to suggest that the most experienced presidents were the best presidents or vice-versa. There's a great breakdown of past presidents, experience, and their ratings to which I will provide a link at the end of this post. Check it out if you are interested. A quick quote from the article: "But the point remains, the Presidents with a lot of experience have not been more outstanding than those with little experience."

Another thing is that Obama was indeed a "professor" of constitutional law at the University of Chicago. Those are not my words, but the words of the U of Chicago. Quote: "From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School." I'll also provide a link to factcheck.org further supporting this fact. Before people start claiming factcheck.org is tied to or biased in favor of Obama, consider that Leonore Annenberg, founder of the Annenberg Foundation, which factcheck is a project of, has endorsed JOHN McCAIN for president.

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OBAMA ??

You gotta be kidding me.

He gets no yards on first down. Gets dropped behind the LOS NUMEROUS times.

Then gets a 30 or 40 yard run to make his stats look good.





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I disagree with people who say Obama is not qualified due to a lack of experience. There are a couple reasons why, in addition to his legislative achievements. First, there isn't really any evidence to suggest that the most experienced presidents were the best presidents or vice-versa. There's a great breakdown of past presidents, experience, and their ratings to which I will provide a link at the end of this post. Check it out if you are interested. A quick quote from the article: "But the point remains, the Presidents with a lot of experience have not been more outstanding than those with little experience."

Another thing is that Obama was indeed a "professor" of constitutional law at the University of Chicago. Those are not my words, but the words of the U of Chicago. Quote: "From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School." I'll also provide a link to factcheck.org further supporting this fact. Before people start claiming factcheck.org is tied to or biased in favor of Obama, consider that Leonore Annenberg, founder of the Annenberg Foundation, which factcheck is a project of, has endorsed JOHN McCAIN for president.

Here are the links:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp200...xperience.html

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...ional_law.html
Being a professor in a law school has nothing to do with being president, regardless of whether it is constitutional law or not.

As far as your comment about experience not being important for being a president, you will then, of course, admit that Governor Palin has as much chance to be a great president as Obama, based on the experience argument, correct?
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admit that Governor Palin has as much chance to be a great president as Obama, based on the experience argument, correct?
that would assume she's read the job description....
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Being a professor in a law school has nothing to do with being president, regardless of whether it is constitutional law or not.

As far as your comment about experience not being important for being a president, you will then, of course, admit that Governor Palin has as much chance to be a great president as Obama, based on the experience argument, correct?
Well for the record it was constitutional law that he taught. Sorry but if you are saying that constitutional law has nothing to do with the presidency then I HIGHLY disagree. Maybe if we had a president who actually knew constitutional law the last 8 years, he wouldn't have disobeyed and manipulated it the way it has been.

To answer your question, like I said in my last post, there's no evidence to suggest that experience leads to a nominee actually being a good president. No matter who it is, including Palin. Look at the article it has a ton of information backing this up. The difference is, Palin is not on the ballot for being president, Obama is. Palin will be a heartbeat away, especially being vice pres to a 72 year old cancer survivor. Nonetheless, her experience or lack thereof doesn't relate to whether she will be a good president or not. Same goes for Obama.
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TERRY ANDERSON, A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WENT DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA HAS SAID THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT.

Obama's Not Exactlys:
1.) Selma March Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google'Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles a bout its various untruths.)

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Oba ma, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that....and for more.

Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia Muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the 20 election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.....25%25_African

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in Islam http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of pe ople who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of20My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel .

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

35.) I don't Have Lobbysists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your 20 plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.
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