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Old 11-01-2008, 02:25 PM   #11
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rough year for Arians' as far as having to come up for excuses as to why management didnt make any productive moves on the O-line.
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Old 11-01-2008, 04:21 PM   #12
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There were a few times when we had Eli dead-to-rights but Derrick Ward just cut his route short and Eli hit him. Only a gain of a yard or two, but no sack or loss of 5-7. Now, why can't we do that????
Because instead of dumping off a quick short pass, Ben would rather try to break a tackle and chuck the ball 50 yards down the field. It's great when it works, but this year it hasn't worked so much.
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Old 11-01-2008, 05:48 PM   #13
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Many more teams this year are exploiting Ben's weakess (inability to read blitzes and holding on to the ball) by sending blitzes.

That's no excuse for not adjusting to it though. It seems our offense is allergic to the three-step drop and the no-huddle. We know Ben picked apart the Jaguars and the Texans with near perfect precision.

The offense in the Jags game was the best offensive performance this season post-Houston. The execution and play-calling was terrific. Why don't we try that more often?
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Arians and Zierlien need to go find another place to work that isn't the Steelers. They can take Willie Colon and Steely McBeam with them, too.
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Arians is correct. That is how you do it, but the QB and WR have to be ready for a quick pass.
exactly... throughout the giants game and if i recall correctly the eagles game... big ben and his recievers were just not on the same page... when recievers read blitz they gotta turn their heads and look for the ball... half the time the recievers couldn't recognize the blitz and thus BR just tossed it assuming the recievers would go get it...
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The offense in the Jags game was the best offensive performance this season post-Houston. The execution and play-calling was terrific. Why don't we try that more often?
Neither the Jags, nor the Texans got much of a pass rush on Ben. Most teams know its pretty obvious that if you can pressure Ben, he isnt as productive. If you rush 4 and he gets time.......he is gonna have a big day.

Look for the Redskins to put 8 in the box, rush 5 or 6 and play man with Rogers and Smoot. Landry can cover a lot of ground out there too at safety.

Steelers need a dangerous slot guy to spread the field a bit and work the inside like Randle El used to. Would love to see Ward, Washington, Holmes on the field and spread it out a bit.
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The games where Ben has been sacked is from good defenses and as well Ben did not have good games at that point. It's all a combination of holding onto the ball too long and the line not protecting well.

Lets hope this week in practice the Steelers worked on quick plays or the Skins will have a big night having one of the top D's in the league right now.
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Neither the Jags, nor the Texans got much of a pass rush on Ben. Most teams know its pretty obvious that if you can pressure Ben, he isnt as productive. If you rush 4 and he gets time.......he is gonna have a big day.

Look for the Redskins to put 8 in the box, rush 5 or 6 and play man with Rogers and Smoot. Landry can cover a lot of ground out there too at safety.

Steelers need a dangerous slot guy to spread the field a bit and work the inside like Randle El used to. Would love to see Ward, Washington, Holmes on the field and spread it out a bit.
Not true... Ben's pass numbers after contact is unbelievable.

The problem isn't Ben after pressure, it is the fact that our O line is letting Ben be put under pressure ALL THE TIME.

NO QB can perform like that.
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Not true... Ben's pass numbers after contact is unbelievable.

The problem isn't Ben after pressure, it is the fact that our O line is letting Ben be put under pressure ALL THE TIME.

NO QB can perform like that.
Preach, do you have a link to this seasons "pass numbers after contact" for 2008 season??

I think a lot of the praise for " passing after contact" and the statistics that the ones that the MNF crew like to mention are "career" stats. Bens first couple years in the league he was pressured and escaped the pocket which resulted in some big plays. Defenses now pressure him outside-in to keep him from rolling outside and getting the big play.

His 23 sacks are plays where his "passing after contact" numbers are zero and I honestly cant remember him making 23 offsetting big plays after getting hit.......maybe 10 plays.

The only positive is that the Redskins only have 10 sacks in 8 games and if they cant pressure Ben like the Jags and Texans.....the Steelers offense has a good chance.
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