NFLPA: Discipline of Holmes improper - Page 2

chucknh · 11-01-2008, 08:41 PM

How can 1 game with pay for marijuana be enough when other players are getting 4 games for diuretic?

chucknh · 11-01-2008, 08:43 PM

sorry I didnt see puppets answer to this question. So Goodell may still suspend him?

fansince'76 · 11-01-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chucknh

How can 1 game with pay for marijuana be enough when other players are getting 4 games for diuretic?

I don't know. Maybe it's the same rationale that leads to Hines Ward getting fined $15,000 for slapping a guy on the side of the helmet after a play (which happens about a dozen times every game) while guys like Shaun Rogers can hit QBs 3-5 seconds after they've thrown the ball and not get penalized or fined whatsoever. It's a mystery.

chucknh · 11-01-2008, 09:16 PM

Ok its not a mystery anymore. Evidently the league will not issue a suspension until " the legal process has run its course."

steel striker · 11-01-2008, 10:00 PM

I would not be surprised if the nfl took some type of action against holmes. Just like Fansince76 said they seem to fine other steeler players for studip crap. Then our qb gets creamed on a late hit and nothing is done or said. Then all of last week Hines is defending himself about being a good football player. Sometimes i really wonder about this NFL.

RoethlisBURGHer · 11-01-2008, 10:41 PM

The NFLPA is sticking their nose into something they need to stay out of.

The Steelers have every right to fine and deactivate a player when team rules are broken or they portray the team in a bad light. I would assume marijuana possession is against team rules since it's illegal...and it portrayed the team in a bad light.

Holmes was fined and deactivated for the game, and told not to show up until Monday. As far as I know, the fine was not an entire game check therefore it's not considered a suspension, just a fine and a benching.

What the NFLPA is attempting to do, IMHO, is keeping teams from punishing their own employees (i.e. players) when they do something wrong.

In the real world, a union such as the Teamsters don't touch drug-related punishment. In a lot of places, a person would be fired for this because it violates the drug-free workplace mantra mose places have.

However, the National Football League isn't most places, and their union, IMHO is more of a joke than anything.

Maybe they should spend more time teaching the players about saving their money so it's there beyond their playing days instead of buying 5 houses, 30 cars, and a huge boat.

These players, uncluding the ones making the "minimum" make more in a year than the average Joe makes in five years. Yet the NFLPA says that they don't make enough, that they need more of the pie.

The politics played in the NFL really piss me off. I'd love to make $500,000 a year to practice and sit on a bench for the most part of my career.

SteelCityMan786 · 11-01-2008, 11:06 PM

The NFLPA should shut up. Holmes got caught doing something out of line, was punished, and served it.

chucknh · 11-01-2008, 11:23 PM

well Goodell and NFLPA are not the same thing. Goodell and the league did not get involved with the Giants who benched Plaxico for missing meetings so I dont think this has to do with the league obstructing teams disciplining their players.

The severity of the suspension depends on whether he has tested positive in the past for marijuana. If this is a first time offense, NO suspension by the league will be recommended.

SunshineMan21 · 11-01-2008, 11:43 PM

The Union doesn't have a leg to stand on, and Tomlin is right to let them know it.

He can do whatever he damn well wants to in regard to activating players . . . it wasn't even an official suspension.

Hasn't the league got anything better to do than crap like this?

Steelman16 · 11-02-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineMan21

Hasn't the league got anything better to do than crap like this?

No, Brady's out, so it's basically a strike season anyway.

They're just keepin' their thumbs twiddled.

I'm glad Tomlin put his fists up. Seriously. Wow.

11-01-2008, 08:41 PM	#11
chucknh Water Boy Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 6 Member Number: 10512 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NFLPA: Discipline of Holmes improper How can 1 game with pay for marijuana be enough when other players are getting 4 games for diuretic?

11-01-2008, 08:43 PM	#12
chucknh Water Boy Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 6 Member Number: 10512 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NFLPA: Discipline of Holmes improper sorry I didnt see puppets answer to this question. So Goodell may still suspend him?

11-01-2008, 09:16 PM	#14
chucknh Water Boy Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 6 Member Number: 10512 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NFLPA: Discipline of Holmes improper Ok its not a mystery anymore. Evidently the league will not issue a suspension until " the legal process has run its course."

11-01-2008, 10:00 PM	#15
steel striker Team Captain Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 695 Member Number: 7251 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NFLPA: Discipline of Holmes improper I would not be surprised if the nfl took some type of action against holmes. Just like Fansince76 said they seem to fine other steeler players for studip crap. Then our qb gets creamed on a late hit and nothing is done or said. Then all of last week Hines is defending himself about being a good football player. Sometimes i really wonder about this NFL.

11-01-2008, 10:41 PM	#16
RoethlisBURGHer Living Legend Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Clowns Town,Ohio Posts: 5,941 Member Number: 370 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NFLPA: Discipline of Holmes improper The NFLPA is sticking their nose into something they need to stay out of. The Steelers have every right to fine and deactivate a player when team rules are broken or they portray the team in a bad light. I would assume marijuana possession is against team rules since it's illegal...and it portrayed the team in a bad light. Holmes was fined and deactivated for the game, and told not to show up until Monday. As far as I know, the fine was not an entire game check therefore it's not considered a suspension, just a fine and a benching. What the NFLPA is attempting to do, IMHO, is keeping teams from punishing their own employees (i.e. players) when they do something wrong. In the real world, a union such as the Teamsters don't touch drug-related punishment. In a lot of places, a person would be fired for this because it violates the drug-free workplace mantra mose places have. However, the National Football League isn't most places, and their union, IMHO is more of a joke than anything. Maybe they should spend more time teaching the players about saving their money so it's there beyond their playing days instead of buying 5 houses, 30 cars, and a huge boat. These players, uncluding the ones making the "minimum" make more in a year than the average Joe makes in five years. Yet the NFLPA says that they don't make enough, that they need more of the pie. The politics played in the NFL really piss me off. I'd love to make $500,000 a year to practice and sit on a bench for the most part of my career. __________________ Congrats to the 2009 Stanley Cup Champion Pittsburgh Penguins

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11-01-2008, 11:06 PM	#17
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11-01-2008, 11:23 PM	#18
chucknh Water Boy Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 6 Member Number: 10512 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NFLPA: Discipline of Holmes improper well Goodell and NFLPA are not the same thing. Goodell and the league did not get involved with the Giants who benched Plaxico for missing meetings so I dont think this has to do with the league obstructing teams disciplining their players. The severity of the suspension depends on whether he has tested positive in the past for marijuana. If this is a first time offense, NO suspension by the league will be recommended.

11-01-2008, 11:43 PM	#19
SunshineMan21 Starter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 466 Gender: Male Member Number: 9294 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NFLPA: Discipline of Holmes improper The Union doesn't have a leg to stand on, and Tomlin is right to let them know it. He can do whatever he damn well wants to in regard to activating players . . . it wasn't even an official suspension. Hasn't the league got anything better to do than crap like this?

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