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Old 11-03-2008, 08:16 AM   #1
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Default What's wrong with Vista?

Warning…geeky stuff ahead…

Let me preface by saying, I work in IT, have a degree in it and have been building and working on computers since the early DOS days (20+ years).

One thing you run across in the computer world, if you live it everyday, is an anti-Microsoft state of mind from a lot of people. For whatever reason, people who are fans of either Linux or Mac OS have some crazy emotional attachment to their platform of choice and spend their time just denouncing Microsoft. It is borderline hysteria and I have to say, totally biased.

I installed Vista when it first came out. I usually am an early adopter. I never had a problem. There is so much vitriol out there over Vista that it is sometimes funny. Is it worth the upgrade from XP?? Probably not to most people. Is it a terrible OS?? Absolutely not. I happen to like it a lot. It is a much more aesthetically pleasing OS then XP which manages RAM better, has more built in security (although that is an annoyance for IT smart peeps).

I currently have a dual boot system with the latest Ubuntu Linux distro and Vista 64bit. Let me just bust the Linux bubble right now. Ubuntu is touted as the most “user friendly” and “dumbed down” version of Linux. Ok, fine. Only problem is that Ubuntu did not find my wireless networking card, my sound card, and installed a generic graphics driver for my video card…

Vista, found all three and installed the latest drivers for each….it installed with very little tweaking in about 30 minutes.

I spent an entire weekend trying to get my wireless adapter working in Ubuntu. You end up having to use a Windows driver for it and “wrapping” it into Linux!!!! What??!!!

Moral of story, Linux has a long way to go before it becomes a home user platform that overtakes Microsoft market share.

For the Mac users? The commercials are cute, but very misleading. Vista has no issues that I saw…sure your 20 year old Epson printer may not work, but jees, is that Epson’s fault, vista’s fault or your own cheap fault for not buying a printer made in this century? Plus, if Mac’s are so great, why have they morphed to Intel architecture that you find in PC’s? Why are they so much more expensive? Why are they so custom builder unfriendly?

I am not a paid supporter of Microsoft…just an end user. I actually have no emotional interest in my OS as it is just a tool for me to get stuff done. I just hear a ton of stuff from people about how Vista is so terrible and then you find out they never used it. Talk about drinking the koolaid.

Sorry, I had to rant.
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:32 AM   #2
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Default Re: What's wrong with Vista?

If you've got XP, I think going to Vista is a poor investment. That's just from experience from my friends. I've managed to avoid it because XP with an Office 2007 upgrade has run about as smoothly for me as possible.

I agree that the commercials are great for Mac. I'm not a big Mac user, but that's just personal preference. Then again, like you stated, it's very easy to custom build my PC (i.e. cheaper) with a Windows system than it is with my buddy's Mac.

Then again, I don't care for a lot of change.
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:03 AM   #3
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Default Re: What's wrong with Vista?

True...it is not as big of an upgrade as XP was over ME. But it does some things better, like manage media and it does have DirectX 10 support if you are a gamer and that is important to you.
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I just have XP. I've hear a lot of anti-vista stuff too and as far as those mac commercials go, they bug me. I actually like the PC comeback commercials, I'm a PC, I'm a PC, I'm a Joe The Plumber, I'm a PC - kind of funny how those commercials all intersect.
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I'm hanging on to XP until at least 2012 (which is when, I believe, they will stop supporting it). It's stable as hell and I know it like the back of my hand...
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Most problems with Vista have always come from software compatibility

this seems to not be a a big problem anymore , but it's still easily fixed . And it's not like Mac hasn't had it's compatibility issues

Upgrading from XP to Vista has been called a pain is the ass. It is if you're not good at it

If you buy a brand new PC with Vista there should be no problem

I've had my laptop with XP for almost 3 years. My next one will be a Mac, but it's not because I have anything against Vista, in face I always recommend it
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I'm hanging on to XP until at least 2012 (which is when, I believe, they will stop supporting it). It's stable as hell and I know it like the back of my hand...
Which is a perfectly legit reason...exactly why I am not upgrading my parent's PC with Vista...XP is still very relevant.
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I hate Vista. I bought a new computer last November and I have Vista in it and will NEVER again get a computer with the program.
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Most problems with Vista have always come from software compatibility

this seems to not be a a big problem anymore , but it's still easily fixed . And it's not like Mac hasn't had it's compatibility issues

Upgrading from XP to Vista has been called a pain is the ass. It is if you're not good at it

If you buy a brand new PC with Vista there should be no problem

I've had my laptop with XP for almost 3 years. My next one will be a Mac, but it's not because I have anything against Vista, in face I always recommend it
I heard rumors of software incompatibilities when I first installed it in 2006, but nothing ever surfaced. The only issues were some drivers for certain pieces of hardware not being readily available at release. This was more the fault of the various hardware manufacturers then Microsoft. But, it was very much the same when XP was released, if people remember. There will always be growing pains with any OS release early on.

I didn't see any software incompatibilites save for an archaic 16 bit dos based program which would no longer run. At some point, you have to move forward, though.
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I hate Vista. I bought a new computer last November and I have Vista in it and will NEVER again get a computer with the program.
Why's that?

Not that I want to convince you other wise, I am more curious as to what troubles you are having?
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