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Old 11-04-2008, 06:30 PM   #1
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Default Starks, Stapleton, Hartwig's play.

I thought last night that Starks looked like his usual self. Not bad, but he lumbers around in pass protection and gets beat by speed rushers. He couldnt handle the fast guys in 2006 and still cant.

Stapleton again wasnt bad, but more often I saw him getting stood up and pushed backward into offensive backfield, rather than get some kind of forward push. I dont know that he is a long term answer to start over the next few years.

Hartwig seems to handle his business. He is no Webster or Dawson, but seems to be able to move his guy in the run game and move his feet decently in pass blocking.

Sadly, I dont want to rely on Starks or Stapleton to start next season, but have a feeling the Steelers will resign Max and if Simmons isnt back yet.....who else is gonna play RG?? Maybe Colon moves inside and Tony Hills can play RT by then.
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Default Re: Starks, Stapleton, Hartwig's play.

the play that sticks out in my mind the most about the line last night was ben's INT. what the heck was starks thinking knock it down!!!!!!!! It was like he was play dodge ball and was thinking oh god oh ogd dont let it hit me ! I hope tony hill can start next year! i really think the middle of our line is doing a good job it is the edges. One of the reasons why heath miller isnt catching to many balls is beacuse he has to helpo out a tackle! But alas we are 6-2 i wil take it!
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Default Re: Starks, Stapleton, Hartwig's play.

I think Stapleton is an upgrade over Simmons this year. I am fine with him holding the position for a year or two until we can fill it. We have bigger holes to fill right now.
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Default Re: Starks, Stapleton, Hartwig's play.

stapleton hasnt been bad.. we have been getting a lot of nice run plays on his side in particular.
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stapleton hasnt been bad.. we have been getting a lot of nice run plays on his side in particular.
Yep. I think he can grow into the position no problem.
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Yep. I think he can grow into the position no problem.
I hope so. But last night he was getting pushed into the backfield in the same manner that Mahan was last season and this past preseason. I'm just letting you guys know, so dont be surprised if he isnt pencilled in at RG next season.

I'm honestly hoping we either find a OT in RD#1 of the draft, or that C Alex Mack of Cal is still on the board when we pick. Mack might be able to step in a start and we then have guys that can play guard like Hartwig, Simmons, Stapleton, Colon (Kemo if extended).
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I hope so. But last night he was getting pushed into the backfield in the same manner that Mahan was last season and this past preseason. I'm just letting you guys know, so dont be surprised if he isnt pencilled in at RG next season.

I'm honestly hoping we either find a OT in RD#1 of the draft, or that C Alex Mack of Cal is still on the board when we pick. Mack might be able to step in a start and we then have guys that can play guard like Hartwig, Simmons, Stapleton, Colon (Kemo if extended).
Here's the thing. I would rather like to have Center, and R/L Guard solid, and focus on the tackles this year. However, if we can pick up a good center in the middle rounds, I would be happy, provided we got a tackle in the high rounds and maybe a FA for a Tackle as well.
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Here's the thing. I would rather like to have Center, and R/L Guard solid, and focus on the tackles this year. However, if we can pick up a good center in the middle rounds, I would be happy, provided we got a tackle in the high rounds and maybe a FA for a Tackle as well.
I think you will see the Steelers draft both an OT and interior lineman in the first 4 rounds this year. Say we are picking in the 28-32 spot. Most likely that top OT's like Oher, Monroe, Black will be gone unless the Steelers trade up.

They may be in the same situation of needing to take the best athlete available and it may be an interior lineman, or DE. I think any solid O lineman in the first would be a good move....even if its an OG or C. The OT's will likely be Colon and Hills fighting for the RT spot and a free agent LT and rookie pick as the other 2 tackles on the team.
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When the Steelers get the 32nd pick , I don't think we will be in a position to get an "impact" tackle. As proven in past years drafts, we'd be in better position to get the best center/guard available than project a 5-6 value tackle. Drafts can be all about the hype of a player at the time. As an example, we drafted Heath in the late first round because of questions of his health, but he was the best TE available. So far, so good for us. The other side of that is a guy like Branden Albert in last years draft. An interior linemen speculated to transfer to tacle in the NFL, is a very tough transition imo. If he had stayed "under the rader" as an interior linemen, the Steelers may of had a chance to pick him up later in the round, much like Faneca.
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the play that sticks out in my mind the most about the line last night was ben's INT. what the heck was starks thinking knock it down!!!!!!!! It was like he was play dodge ball and was thinking oh god oh ogd dont let it hit me !
I don't know what was going through his head, but he looked like he was going to hit the ground because someone yelled "Look Out!".
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