Big Ben played well!

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Originally Posted by Preacher

I actually Like Ben taking the long shots at times. BTW, Washington should have caught it.. so it was a good decision, and bad hands on Washington.

I never said that Ben shouldnt throw long passes.

I also think you are thinking of the pass that Ben hit Washington in the hands in the flat (gotta catch those)....I am talking about down the middle when the ball was thrown at the dirt at his feet. It was a bad decision and all I want is for Ben to learn to make good decisions.

I think it was on the drive that resulted in Reeds first FG, he took a sack that put the ball back around the 10, when if he throws it thru the endzone, its 3rd down from the 4. That's the kind of bad decision that I am talking about that limits your options on the next play.

[jjpro11]

ben finally started checking down to his running backs. man was i glad to see that. if he can keep playing smart the points will come.

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson

I never said that Ben shouldnt throw long passes.

I also think you are thinking of the pass that Ben hit Washington in the hands in the flat (gotta catch those)....I am talking about down the middle when the ball was thrown at the dirt at his feet. It was a bad decision and all I want is for Ben to learn to make good decisions.

I think it was on the drive that resulted in Reeds first FG, he took a sack that put the ball back around the 10, when if he throws it thru the endzone, its 3rd down from the 4. That's the kind of bad decision that I am talking about that limits your options on the next play.

Oh yeah..

That pass... did you see the replay though.... ball came out of his hands wierd, same thing that happened on the pick for Harrison.

I understand what your saying, but how often have we seen Ben hold on to it, and hit a guy late for a TD too? We both have to remember, that when Ben is healthy, he runs on those as well.

That is why I say, gave him a couple weeks, and I think we will see this Offense finally really hitting their stride. With that defense... WOW that will be scary.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Originally Posted by Preacher

Oh yeah..

That pass... did you see the replay though.... ball came out of his hands wierd, same thing that happened on the pick for Harrison.

I understand what your saying, but how often have we seen Ben hold on to it, and hit a guy late for a TD too? We both have to remember, that when Ben is healthy, he runs on those as well.

That is why I say, gave him a couple weeks, and I think we will see this Offense finally really hitting their stride. With that defense... WOW that will be scary.

Thanks, I didnt see the ball come out of his hands weird, but will see it again later. I know that Ben sometimes scrambles and makes plays....been watching Steeler games for 30years. But stuff like taking a sack on the 10 and giving your team a 3rd down from the 10 instead of from the 4 is irresponsible and immature.

I think the best thing the Offense has to look forward to is getting Miller and Parker back healthy and Ben making quicker decisions.........not letting the rush get to him. I hope we can make a run, but you need to be able to run the ball in January and I am not confident we can do that.

[Galax Steeler]

It was good to see Ben play the way he did he made good decisions and didn't throw any interceptions good game Ben.

[steel striker]

Here is what cracks me up about everybody screaming at Ben to get rid of the ball. Well today at times it was good that he held on to the ball so the receivers could get open. Look if Ben gets the time to throw the ball he is a very good qb and, look at all of the good decisions he made today very accurate and he took what the defense gave him.

[steelpride12]

Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson

Actually.....Perfect Practice makes Perfect.

Ben still hung onto the ball a few times and got sacked instead of throwing it away. A couple times he threw long to Nate when Holmes was open underneath and on the 2nd last drive he took the sack instead of throwing to Hines on the sideline on 3rd and long.

If he completes that 3rd and long to Ward on the sideline short of the first down, he might have given Reed a chance at a go ahead FG and would not have needed to take it down to the final seconds. If he plays that game smarter, he puts up 14 or 17 on the board and wins easier......but that is the risk-reward you get with Ben.

You know what i meant. Ben looked alot better with the practice then if he would have not practiced at all.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Originally Posted by steelpride12

You know what i meant. Ben looked alot better with the practice then if he would have not practiced at all.

Yeah, getting some reps should have helped. I guess in hindsight I wish he sat down in the Colts game and watched Leftwich play. Maybe Byron ends up making quicker desicisions and Ben learns the value of some of those decisions on monday film session.

Have to remember that Ben never got to spend much time watching a veteran QB play and learning from him by watching. Its kind of a "cant see the forest for the trees " scenario.

[marybasak]

I agree, I have my confidence back again. We are hurting without a power runner in goal line situations. We need another bus!

[SteelMember]

Well, last week I named Ben the goat for the mistakes (ints), which in my eyes lost the game. So, this week I will go on record and say Ben had a good game. He made good decisions on check downs and audibled to quck slants at opportune times. Often during a replay, I could see that there were other possible routes for him to throw to, but you can't second guess completions. Confidence is what he needed more than anything. Penalties were the reason drives stalled or kept us out of the endzone, not Ben.