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Old 12-01-2008, 08:52 AM   #1
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Default I know we won....but..

Once again, I have to complain about the play-calling.

This happened several times yesterday, so hear me out. Why is it that the offense is moving the ball well, running on 1st down and leaving us with a 2nd and 5, and we inexplicably go into 5 wide empty backfield. WTF!! Nothing like telling the defense your going to throw, when there is absolutely no need to. Nothing like just letting the defense unleash on your (already injured) QB. Once again, WTF!! What's wrong with going singleback 3WR, and running playaction?

I still see random playcalling, without ever trying to set the defense up for something later in the game. I would also like to point out that we don't use the 3WR sets enough. The first run of the game came from the 3WR set, and it was for a big gain. We run pretty well from the 3WR sets, consistently.

The other reason I'm pushing the 3WR set, is because Nate Washington is good and fast. He is consistently getting behind defenses. This guy could be our Alvin Harper. I would run more 3WR sets and send Nate long on the majority of pass plays. We have the playmakers for it on offense. Ward and Miller are the possession guys, with Holmes having breakaway potential to go along with Nates deep routes. This would put all defenses back on their heels. This would open up running lanes.

I just think that we could set the defenses up, much more consistently, running our offense out of the 3WR set. The key word to me here is, CONSISTENT. I just don't see any consistency with our offense. Just imagine how good we could be, if our offense was more consistent. How much better would our defense be if our offense could consistently sustain long drives?

Between the 3WR sets, and the bunch sets, we could run so many plays with the talent we have at WR and TE and RB, that defenses would be dizzy. Let's make it easier for Ben and the offense, and set things up!
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:19 AM   #2
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Default Re: I know we won....but..

We're saving the good stuff in our secret playoffs package notebook.

Now stop whining and enjoy the win.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:22 AM   #3
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Default Re: I know we won....but..

I didn't like that we passed so much on 3rd and short situations.

And, of course, the red zone/goal line offense leaves something to be desired.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:22 AM   #4
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Default Re: I know we won....but..

Our Defense won that game for us plain and simple. The offense did just enough to not lose it once again.

I will take a win against the Pats any day of the week but I definitely see what teh OP is talking about.
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Default Re: I know we won....but..

Here I was all excited over finally beating those Cheating frauds...

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Default Re: I know we won....but..

The offense put up points...although most of it was a result of the defense putting them into position.
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A 35-minute TOP and a 3 TD+ margin of victory on the road = the offense "doing just enough not to lose a game?" Whatever.
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Our Defense won that game for us plain and simple. The offense did just enough to not lose it once again.

I will take a win against the Pats any day of the week but I definitely see what teh OP is talking about.
Are you sure you watch the same game? you didnt watch a game you had recorded? we scored 33 points that isnt just doing enough to win that is doing enough to crush the pretenders!
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Default Re: I know we won....but..

yes 5wr means we are telling the defense we are gonna throw,

we are also telling them to back off the line and fear the throw, hence making the pass more effective.


i really dont know why you are complaining at all.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:18 AM   #10
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A 35-minute TOP and a 3 TD+ margin of victory on the road = the offense "doing just enough not to lose a game?" Whatever.
Some people are just never happy no matter what the team does. It's as sure as the sun coming up in the morning.

As for the OP, I do agree that we run too many empty sets in those situations - I never like telegraphing plays, especially pass plays. But one advantage is that you are able to throw quick passes more effectively since the D can't cover everyone. Someone is usually left open almost all the time, even if it's in the flat. That could be the explanation as to why Arians does it, but I'm still not a fan of it. I'd rather stick with the 3WR or the bunch formation (not a big fan of that either) to give yourself a run-pass option.
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