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Old 12-01-2008, 10:21 AM   #11
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Default Re: I know we won....but..

A couple things.

-on 2nd and 5 showing a RB, then moving him out to a side, spreads out the defenders and in all likelyhood....catches the Pats with the wrong personell on the field.

- I too dont like passing on 3rd and short, but with no true FB, a weak OG in Stapleton and an inconsistent OG in Kemo.....its probably the best. We knew it was Arians M.O. when he came here and its the reality

-all in all, against a team that was 18-1 last season that returned a lot of the same defense.....the Steelers O controlled the ball well. I think its our best win of the season.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:30 AM   #12
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Pretty sure our offense score 33 points. 35 min. time of possession. The run the pass, and play action all working out. What game where you watching?
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:34 AM   #13
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yes 5wr means we are telling the defense we are gonna throw,

we are also telling them to back off the line and fear the throw, hence making the pass more effective.

i really dont know why you are complaining at all.
Back off the line??? Is that what happened in the Eagles game? Wouldn't the pass be more effective if the defense had to defend the run as well?

I'm not complaining, just pointing out something that, IMO, is completely absurd. There is, in my mind, no logical reasoning behind going 5 wide in those situations. That is my point. The weather conditions in the game further justify my point.

The fact of the matter is, we could do/be better. I'd simply like to see a gameplan that first off, attacks an opponents weaknesses and second, sets up the defense for play-action passing. At this juncture, I'd say we don't do either very well.

Am I missing something, or does this team not have an extremely great oppurtunity to win another Superbowl with this defense. Let's go O, let's see some consistency.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:37 AM   #14
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Now stop whining and enjoy the win.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:50 AM   #15
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Default Re: I know we won....but..

Don't like the playcalling?

Blame Ben. He's calling about 2/3rds of his own plays now.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:53 AM   #16
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As for the OP, I do agree that we run too many empty sets in those situations - I never like telegraphing plays, especially pass plays. But one advantage is that you are able to throw quick passes more effectively since the D can't cover everyone. Someone is usually left open almost all the time, even if it's in the flat. That could be the explanation as to why Arians does it, but I'm still not a fan of it. I'd rather stick with the 3WR or the bunch formation (not a big fan of that either) to give yourself a run-pass option.
I can really hate on the bunch formations, but probably because we run them so often. I do believe we have the personell to run the bunch well, with the TEs we have especially. And we do run alot of plays very well thru the bunch.

I agree, and to my point, that those two formations give us the best pass-run options. Those type of options are exactly what will set the defense up later in the game.
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Default Re: I know we won....but..

I didn't address the OP before, but I have to say I agree completely with the argument against the 5-wide - why tip our hand as to whether we're going to pass on a particular play? OTOH, I think overall our offense is beginning to execute better - night and day difference between now and about a month ago, IMO.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:02 AM   #18
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Relax folks. We're saving the good stuff for the Post-season.
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Don't like the playcalling?

Blame Ben. He's calling about 2/3rds of his own plays now.
You caught that whole conversation about Ben calling the majority of plays? That was interesting. It bodes well for the future that Ben is that involved.

What bothered me about that was the comment Ben had (conveyed by Dierdorf) about Arians being quiet for 4 - 5 plays. WTF!! I get that Ben's calling the plays, but quiet. Does he mean quiet, as in, nothing said at all? If that's the case there's a serious problem. Put Arians in the booth, so he can tell his QB what the D is trying to do to him.

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