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Old 12-10-2008, 09:31 PM   #71
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Default Re: Browns have Schottenheimer on radar

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Heres the sound of things coming from Clayton:



Do you think his loyalty to Pittsburgh would prevent coaching in the division? Does that trump a whole brinks trunk full of money, and everything he'd want to do in a franchise? Or could this be just him using Clayton as a mouthpiece saying "Randy, you're going to have to offer me more", or is it just Clayton speculating things? He is after all from the Steel city, so there could be a slight bias there.

I'm curious if he left on good terms with the Rooneys, I've heard that he was forced out, I've also heard that he had/has a good relationship with them.
His relationship with the Rooneys very well could keep him from coaching within the division.

Cowher grew up in the Pittsburgh area and grew up a Steelers fan. The Browns chose Bellichick over Cowher and look at where that has gotten the Browns. It got them one playoff appearance, a loss to Cowher's Steelers.

I do not know how Cowher left, there is only speculation. The only people that truly know how Cowher left is Cowher, his family, and the Rooneys.

We'll see how much his bond with the Rooneys and the rest of the Steelers orginization means to him when he makes his desicion on coaching (go the Cleveland, go somewhere else, stay on tv).

Also, I highly doubt Bill Cowher needs the money. Unless he invested it all into the stock market, he's sitting on quite a lot...plus making a nice chunk working one day a week. So loyalty to the Rooneys could keep him from having a Brinks truck from Cleveland backing up to his door.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:44 PM   #72
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His relationship with the Rooneys very well could keep him from coaching within the division.

Cowher grew up in the Pittsburgh area and grew up a Steelers fan. The Browns chose Bellichick over Cowher and look at where that has gotten the Browns. It got them one playoff appearance, a loss to Cowher's Steelers.

I do not know how Cowher left, there is only speculation. The only people that truly know how Cowher left is Cowher, his family, and the Rooneys.

We'll see how much his bond with the Rooneys and the rest of the Steelers orginization means to him when he makes his desicion on coaching (go the Cleveland, go somewhere else, stay on tv).

Also, I highly doubt Bill Cowher needs the money. Unless he invested it all into the stock market, he's sitting on quite a lot...plus making a nice chunk working one day a week. So loyalty to the Rooneys could keep him from having a Brinks truck from Cleveland backing up to his door.
We now know how Cleveland apparently treated him last time around, this is from Fred Phelps,the guy who does the Cavs pre/post-game on FSNOhio:

From the sound of things, the Art Moddell led Browns treated Cowher like crap when trying to get the job. Heard on the radio, that when Belichick came to the airport for his job interview, he was privately chauffeured as to avoid the press, and moddell kissed his ass the whole way. When Cowher came, he was really excited and wanted the job very badly, shows up to the airport expecting a taxi or something to pick him up and let him go to berea, thing is, Moddell left him hanging, and a TV news truck that was set to interview him, had to give him a ride to Berea.

Many of the Browns fans were auctually sort of pissed that Moddel hired mumbles instead of Bill, "We hired the wrong Bill!", was the call that rang out by the end of Mumbles first season, Dude was hated.

Just more proof that Art was a scumbag, but thats for another time.

What was the speculation when he did quit back in '07? I'm curious is there any thread on here about what may have happened?
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:06 PM   #73
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Heres the sound of things coming from Clayton:



Do you think his loyalty to Pittsburgh would prevent coaching in the division? Does that trump a whole brinks trunk full of money, and everything he'd want to do in a franchise? Or could this be just him using Clayton as a mouthpiece saying "Randy, you're going to have to offer me more", or is it just Clayton speculating things? He is after all from the Steel city, so there could be a slight bias there.

I'm curious if he left on good terms with the Rooneys, I've heard that he was forced out, I've also heard that he had/has a good relationship with them.
Cowher still bleeds black and gold, I can hear him every time he announces on the steelers or anything like that, he gets excited, his chin starts to jut out lol.

But playing what if scenario, If cowher does decide to go to the Browns, then the Rooneys can play hardball because if Im correct, Cowher did still have 1 more year left in his contract and try to bust cowhers chops or ask $$$$ from the browns, but then again, I can be wrong. I say fire o line coach z and put him as the new coach lol. That would be impossible because I can see a massive locker room split coming up.
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If cowher does decide to go to the Browns, then the Rooneys can play hardball because if Im correct, Cowher did still have 1 more year left in his contract.

That's a negative - Cowher's last contract year with the Steelers ended with the 2007 season.

He's free and clear to do what he wants.
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This whole "He's loyal to the Rooney's" thing is a ruse concocted by Steelers fans who are trying to find ways to convice themselves that this won't happen.

I also put pretty much zero stock in Clayton's claims that Cowher is playing games with the Browns to increase his stock. His asking price is what it is regardless.
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Default Re: Browns have Schottenheimer on radar

it's like saying that lebron james will def stay with the cavs b/c he is an ohio kid... ppl go where either A: the money is or B: where the championship is.... so if bill does decide 2 coach the browns, it's b/c he may need the money
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This whole "He's loyal to the Rooney's" thing is a ruse concocted by Steelers fans who are trying to find ways to convice themselves that this won't happen..
I think you're dead on with that one.

Bill will take the money and run, but I don't think his ego could stand losing twice a year to the Steelers, that's what will keep him out of the AFC North.
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it's like saying that lebron james will def stay with the cavs b/c he is an ohio kid... ppl go where either A: the money is or B: where the championship is.... so if bill does decide 2 coach the browns, it's b/c he may need the money
I think in Bill's case, it's both. If he comes to the Browns it's because he's getting paid and believes he'll have a chance at winning a ring for Cleveland.
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This whole "He's loyal to the Rooney's" thing is a ruse concocted by Steelers fans who are trying to find ways to convice themselves that this won't happen.

I also put pretty much zero stock in Clayton's claims that Cowher is playing games with the Browns to increase his stock. His asking price is what it is regardless.
Right, Right...Top three things he wants contract wise would be:

1.) 8-9 mill.
2.) To call the shots on who runs the front office.
3.)Some form of stock in the team, (IE Minority Ownership)

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it's like saying that lebron james will def stay with the cavs b/c he is an ohio kid... ppl go where either A: the money is or B: where the championship is.... so if bill does decide 2 coach the browns, it's b/c he may need the money
LeBron..is..Up in the air about being an Ohio kid, its defintly a plus for him wanting to stay here, as far as the two that were mentioned you're dead on, the reason I see him staying with the Cavs are those two reasons right now.

Now, with those applied to Cowher, The money I think is there, and the talent on the team to contend for a championship...is still missing a lot of pieces...But there are a few pieces in place, again from the sound of him talking on the CBS pre game the other day, he was very defensive of Cleveland, something that struck me as odd.

Now, Bernie Kosar (who does a part time job with lerner, gives him his opinion, etc) was on the radio just a few hours a go, and had said, that coaches when they're approached about another mans job, while the guy still has the job and whether they would take it, the coach will always say no, regardless of the situation, until that coach is fired. I tend to think that theory is right.
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I still say FG Bill is too comfy sitting in the studio with the stuffed shirts to come back to coaching just yet.

Maybe in another year or two, like he's been saying.
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