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Old 12-08-2008, 02:30 PM   #1
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Default Why the divison is basically clinched already

This is assuming us and Baltimore beat Cleveland and Jacksonville the last week of the season. Even if we lose to Baltimore, we will still be tied, and the Titans will have the home field advantage clinched since they play Houston. Then, I highliy doubt that the Titans would play their starters against our defense that is very likely to force some injuries. So, if we beat the Titans, we win the divison even if Baltimore beats Dallas, because the Common Games will be tied, and we will have the better AFC record.

Besides, I think we can beat Tennessee with their starters. We will shut down the run, and they won't pass on our secondary. But, I don't think they want to see James Harrison light up Chris Johnson and end his season in a game they don't need.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:39 PM   #2
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I love the positive attitude - And I do largely agree.

That being said . . . If we lose our last three we have to hope Baltimore loses their last two (At Dallas and Home vs. Jacksonville). This Division could go down to the wire . . .
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So say we lose to Baltimore. And then we end the season, who would win the division?
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I prefer the simpler method of winning the division by beating the snot outta the Ratbirds this Sunday.
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I love the positive attitude - And I do largely agree.

That being said . . . If we lose our last three we have to hope Baltimore loses their last two (At Dallas and Home vs. Jacksonville). This Division could go down to the wire . . .
If we lose to Cleveland with Ken Dorsey, we don't deserve to be in the playoffs, and I don't see Tennessee as a threat at all. They looked bad vs. Cleveland.
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So say we lose to Baltimore. And then we end the season, who would win the division?
You can't tell since the common games and AFC matchups aren't even. But, if the common games and AFC records are tied, I think it goes down to Strength of Victory, which I believe they will have us in since they got to run up their scores against Oakland and Miami.
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You can't tell since the common games and AFC matchups aren't even. But, if the common games and AFC records are tied, I think it goes down to Strength of Victory, which I believe they will have us in since they got to run up their scores against Oakland and Miami.
this is why the TD that was not given to us by the NFL sucked and it took away from Troys stats
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I prefer the simpler method of winning the division by beating the snot outta the Ratbirds this Sunday.
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If you want the tiebreaker scenarios - it's a bit more komplikated


NFL Tiebreaking Procedures

TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs
Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

Two Clubs
Head-to-head, if applicable.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in conference games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss.

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.

Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in conference games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss

When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
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Default Re: Why the divison is basically clinched already

Even if the Ravens beat the Steelers this Sunday, I still think they will have a hard road to hoe to win the division. Unless I'm mistaken, the Steelers have a one-game advantage in conference wins, and the Ravens have two games remaining within the AFC (Steelers-Jags) while Pittsburgh has three (Ravens-Titans-Browns).

So if both teams end up 11-5 or 12-4, I think the Steelers have the edge.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Please!
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