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Old 12-17-2008, 01:04 PM   #1
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I've been hearing a lot of sports writers in support of Big Ben as MVP this year. Even though guys like Brees and Rivers have had great numbers, theyre team records will more then likely cancel them out.

I believe Big Ben is 2 solid performances away while winning the last 2 from getting it.
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Old 12-17-2008, 01:10 PM   #2
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I have been hearing that as well. They just talked about that very issue on ESPNs First Take. Skip Bayless would give the award to Ben right now, based on how he has lead the team from come from behind wins in the big games down the stretch. I do think if he does as well the next two games as he has lately, he would be one of the front runners for the award. I don't see how he could not be, unless they go by stats alone.
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Old 12-17-2008, 01:11 PM   #3
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I've been hearing a lot of sports writers in support of Big Ben as MVP this year. Even though guys like Brees and Rivers have had great numbers, theyre team records will more then likely cancel them out.

I believe Big Ben is 2 solid performances away while winning the last 2 from getting it.
So wouldn't Kerry Collins be in the conversation?
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Old 12-17-2008, 01:16 PM   #4
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Default Re: Big Ben MVP?

They'll probably still give it to Tom Brady for that great first half he played.
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So wouldn't Kerry Collins be in the conversation?
because he sucks.

seriously... youre putting kerry in the same class as ben?

coach fisher had a candid conversation with pat kirwan a few weeks ago, explaining that they had only spent about 4 minutes this entire season in the 2 minute drill/offense. (because they always played with the lead).

how bout that last minute game winning drive by kerry against the lowly texans?

c'mon man!
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I have been hearing that as well. They just talked about that very issue on ESPNs First Take. Skip Bayless would give the award to Ben right now, based on how he has lead the team from come from behind wins in the big games down the stretch. I do think if he does as well the next two games as he has lately, he would be one of the front runners for the award, I don't see how he could not be, unless they go by stats alone.
Yea idk i was thinking Matt Ryan mvp this year. Look at what he has done, he brought the falcons from one of the worst teams in the league beside dolphins, to a playoff competitor. I think Matt Ryan and Chad Pennington are in front of Ben, just because those two brought the worst teams IN DA LEAGUE TO PLAYOFF COMPETITORS.

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So wouldn't Kerry Collins be in the conversation?
I see your point here. If we as Steeler fans are going to say the Ben is deserving then we kinda need to at least consider what LIG58 is saying. Even though he is prolly just using this as a back-door slam on Ben. I will say this though, Ben has been doing it with out a decent line and a decent running game, whereas Collins has had the luxury of both.
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I see your point here. If we as Steeler fans are going to say the Ben is deserving then we kinda need to at least consider what LIG58 is saying. Even though he is prolly just using this as a back-door slam on Ben. I will say this though, Ben has been doing it with out a decent line and a decent running game, whereas Collins has had the luxury of both.
Look though man, i'll tell you guys what i told my friends, Kerry Collins isnt dat good, we seen him play bad when he plays against solid teams. Smash and dash been doing the most of the work in tenn.
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Default Re: Big Ben MVP?

If Ben takes them deep in the playoffs and has big end games like he has he can certainly win the MVP.

Warner
Manning
Favre
Eli
Culter
Romo
McNabb

are the QB competition with Warner and Peyton being the biggest.. The rest would have to play lights out from here to have consideration and both Manning and Warner would have to get real deep in the playoffs and Warner to the Bowl. I do not see other than a QB getting it at this time.
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If Ben takes them deep in the playoffs and has big end games like he has he can certainly win the MVP.

Warner
Manning
Favre
Eli
Culter
Romo
McNabb

are the QB competition with Warner and Peyton being the biggest.. The rest would have to play lights out from here to have consideration and both Manning and Warner would have to get real deep in the playoffs and Warner to the Bowl. I do not see other than a QB getting it at this time.
How can you not have Pennington or Ryan on your qb list
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