Steelers penalties

steelerchad · 01-03-2009, 03:14 PM

Looking at penalties called against us, the Steelers are ranked 21st with about 6 per game. The Patriots get the least called against them with about 3.5 per game and the Cowboys are the worst with about 7.5 per game.

Nothing out of the ordinary looking at first glance, but my concern is not about penalties in general. More about the subjective calls like holding. If you false start, everyone sees it and it's getting called. Holding on the other hand can be called on any play, but rarely is. And almost never is called on our opponents offensive line against our excellent pass rush. As aggressive and dominant as our defense is, it would seem to make sense that we would draw more holding calls than the average team. Yet, when I watch the games rarely does our D get the holding calls. If anyone has any data or knows where to go to look at it I would be interested.

Maybe, I'm off base on this because I'm a fan. But, I'd like to find out.

Crushzilla · 01-03-2009, 03:17 PM

You're not just being a homer.

There is validity to this. I think the Steelers went a month without having a hold called on the opposing offense.

Hopefully someone has an actual stat for you, but I'll be the first to offer an agreement.

steelreserve · 01-03-2009, 03:29 PM

Well, at least it's not like a couple years ago, when it seemed like every time you turned around there was a bogus late hit out of bounds that bailed our opponents out on a key third-and-long. I hated that. Seems like we get a lot of offensive holding penalties and deserve most of them. Although the absence of same while we're on defense definitely stands out.

steelreserve · 01-03-2009, 03:33 PM

Also, you might find this article interesting:

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.c...8287/index.htm

There was a study done in the late 1980s showing that NHL and NFL teams with black uniforms did indeed get penalized more than average over a period of 17 years. There was a theory that's because the color fired them up a little extra and those teams played more aggressively, and there was a theory it was because black subconsciously suggests evil or dirty play to the referees.

Interesting. I wonder if it still holds true today.

lilyoder6 · 01-03-2009, 03:52 PM

thats is interesting... but lately the steelers haven't been getting many pen

MasterOfPuppets · 01-03-2009, 05:23 PM

all i know is, that willie colon is GUARANTEED to kill at least one drive every game with a false start.

fansince'76 · 01-03-2009, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

all i know is, that willie colon is GUARANTEED to kill at least one drive every game with a false start.

....or a hold.

Texasteel · 01-03-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

all i know is, that willie colon is GUARANTEED to kill at least one drive every game with a false start.

Thats what worries me the most. Seems like evertime we get in the red zone, he's holding or taking off to soon.

steel striker · 01-03-2009, 05:39 PM

Yeah we have had about four td's called back because of holding on colon. Harrison is always being held it is not good.

beSteelmyheart · 01-03-2009, 07:06 PM

"The Patriots get the least called against them with about 3.5 per game"

Why does this not surprise me?

01-03-2009, 03:14 PM	#1
steelerchad Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,948 Member Number: 5792 Thanks: 2 Thanked 40 Times in 32 Posts	Steelers penalties Looking at penalties called against us, the Steelers are ranked 21st with about 6 per game. The Patriots get the least called against them with about 3.5 per game and the Cowboys are the worst with about 7.5 per game. Nothing out of the ordinary looking at first glance, but my concern is not about penalties in general. More about the subjective calls like holding. If you false start, everyone sees it and it's getting called. Holding on the other hand can be called on any play, but rarely is. And almost never is called on our opponents offensive line against our excellent pass rush. As aggressive and dominant as our defense is, it would seem to make sense that we would draw more holding calls than the average team. Yet, when I watch the games rarely does our D get the holding calls. If anyone has any data or knows where to go to look at it I would be interested. Maybe, I'm off base on this because I'm a fan. But, I'd like to find out.

01-03-2009, 03:17 PM	#2
Crushzilla Team Owner Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The City of Champions Posts: 2,954 Gender: Male Member Number: 5106 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Steelers penalties You're not just being a homer. There is validity to this. I think the Steelers went a month without having a hold called on the opposing offense. Hopefully someone has an actual stat for you, but I'll be the first to offer an agreement. __________________ Mad props to Steel-Bryan for the Bucco sig.

01-03-2009, 03:29 PM	#3
steelreserve Goatse + Tubgirl = $$$ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: www.meatspin.com Posts: 4,599 Member Number: 1976 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Steelers penalties Well, at least it's not like a couple years ago, when it seemed like every time you turned around there was a bogus late hit out of bounds that bailed our opponents out on a key third-and-long. I hated that. Seems like we get a lot of offensive holding penalties and deserve most of them. Although the absence of same while we're on defense definitely stands out. __________________ "An empty victory is a victory nonetheless."

01-03-2009, 03:33 PM	#4
steelreserve Goatse + Tubgirl = $$$ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: www.meatspin.com Posts: 4,599 Member Number: 1976 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Steelers penalties Also, you might find this article interesting: http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.c...8287/index.htm There was a study done in the late 1980s showing that NHL and NFL teams with black uniforms did indeed get penalized more than average over a period of 17 years. There was a theory that's because the color fired them up a little extra and those teams played more aggressively, and there was a theory it was because black subconsciously suggests evil or dirty play to the referees. Interesting. I wonder if it still holds true today. __________________ "An empty victory is a victory nonetheless."

01-03-2009, 03:52 PM	#5
lilyoder6 locked behind Xanax bars Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Playin' touch football, on marijuana street Posts: 6,388 Gender: Male Member Number: 2568 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Steelers penalties thats is interesting... but lately the steelers haven't been getting many pen __________________ Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy ~ Ben Franklin Freedom: some use it, Everyone enjoys it, A few defend it.

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01-03-2009, 05:23 PM	#6
MasterOfPuppets Living Legend Apple Shooter Champion! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 11,806 Gender: Male Member Number: 1990 Thanks: 13 Thanked 94 Times in 59 Posts	Re: Steelers penalties all i know is, that willie colon is GUARANTEED to kill at least one drive every game with a false start. __________________ Benjamin Franklin : “People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both”

01-03-2009, 05:39 PM	#9
steel striker Team Captain Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 695 Member Number: 7251 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Steelers penalties Yeah we have had about four td's called back because of holding on colon. Harrison is always being held it is not good.

01-03-2009, 07:06 PM	#10
beSteelmyheart Team Captain Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Rocket Garden Posts: 836 Gender: Female Member Number: 1249 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Steelers penalties "The Patriots get the least called against them with about 3.5 per game" Why does this not surprise me? __________________ "We have the power, We have the resources, We have the energy! Let's get together and wreck shit!" Evil Nine

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