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Old 01-06-2009, 06:02 AM   #11
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Default Re: Has Gay taken McFadden's spot for good?

Sign McFadden.

Don't be cheap - suck it up and pay the man - the salary cap is going up to 123 million next year and we need him.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:45 AM   #12
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Default Re: Has Gay taken McFadden's spot for good?

I havent seen enough of Gay to be sure he's gonna work out in the long run.

I like what I have seen in McFadden and I hope we can resign him.
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:56 AM   #13
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Default Re: Has Gay taken McFadden's spot for good?

I have been very impressed with William Gay this season. But I also want the FO to make every effort to keep McFadden. This secondary could be great for many more years if we keep McFadden.
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there was 0 drop off with gay in the lineup as compared to bmac....they'll throw an offer at bmac, which he'll refuse, he'll walk, we'll get a comp pick.....thats how it works in pittsburgh.....
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Default Re: Has Gay taken McFadden's spot for good?

I think Gay has played very well this year, and while a new contract for Bmac could be a cap issue, I believe that the team is just being cautious with the previously broken arm. While 4-5 weeks for a bone to mend might be fine for the average joe, I don't think they, or even he being a contract year, wants to re-injure it. There has already been a case this year, can't remember exactly who-cowboys, that a player has come back and re-aggravated a broken arm and now has a longer recovery than if he would have waited longer initially.
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but in all seriousness with McFadden's agent being who he is, i don't see how the rooneys could ever negotiate with a man like that let alone offer mcfadden a contract..
You mean like they did with Timmons, who has the same agent? McFadden wasn't appreciably better than Gay has been, so McFadden isn't exactly in a position to "extort" money from the Rooneys.
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there was 0 drop off with gay in the lineup as compared to bmac....they'll throw an offer at bmac, which he'll refuse, he'll walk, we'll get a comp pick.....thats how it works in pittsburgh.....
That could very much be the scenario. I do think that McFadden is better than Gay (no I am not a Gay basher ) but dont think the Steelers are gonna panic if they have to go with Taylor, Townsend, Gay, Roy Lewis (or a draft pick).
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You mean like they did with Timmons, who has the same agent? McFadden wasn't appreciably better than Gay has been, so McFadden isn't exactly in a position to "extort" money from the Rooneys.
Signing a rookie is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than signing an unrestricted free agent.

The free agent tests the waters and lets teams bid for his services. Rosenhaus will even fake phone calls from other teams, pretending that his client is getting a better offer. Timmons as the #15 draft pick got a bit more than the #16 pick and a bit less than the #14 pick.......its pretty much a slotting system.
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Signing a rookie is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than signing an unrestricted free agent.

The free agent tests the waters and lets teams bid for his services. Rosenhaus will even fake phone calls from other teams, pretending that his client is getting a better offer. Timmons as the #15 draft pick got a bit more than the #16 pick and a bit less than the #14 pick.......its pretty much a slotting system.
but timmons was the 2nd first rounder to sign that season. i think pick 31 greg olsen was the first. drew and kahn set the market, they didnt follow it.

if the steelers want mcfadden they will get him and offer him what he's worth. even if drew were ben or troys agent they woulda got the same deal when their contract was done. of course they were done with a year remaining which may be an indication of which direction the steelers are leaning.

fwiw bryant loves being a steeler.
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but timmons was the 2nd first rounder to sign that season. i think pick 31 greg olsen was the first. drew and kahn set the market, they didnt follow it.

if the steelers want mcfadden they will get him and offer him what he's worth. even if drew were ben or troys agent they woulda got the same deal when their contract was done. of course they were done with a year remaining which may be an indication of which direction the steelers are leaning.

fwiw bryant loves being a steeler.
The Steelers also knew what they had in Ben and Troy when they extended them.

McFadden has an excellent rookie season with the amount of playing time he was alloted. I remember that pass breakup in the endzone of the Colts playoff game that year, great play.

But then in 2006 and 2007 he was nothing but a pass interference penalty machine and was burned a few times. We had no idea what we had in him, we knew he had potential due to his rookie season.

Then this year he broke out when Deshea got hurt. He's gonna be a legit lockdown cornerback in this league.

LOL Tony, why would he not love being a Steeler? Being a part of probally the best defense of this decade (that's right, if we win the SB this defense is better than the 2000 Ravens and the 2002 Buccs defeneses). Hopefully his love for being a Steeler will let him take a lil bit less than what some teams would offer to stay in Pittsburgh and win some more Super Bowls.

If we do resign McFadden, we'll have one sick as hell secondary.

Ike Taylor, Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Bryant McFadden, Willie Gay. Hopefully Anothony Smith can pull his head out of his ass and become a contributor, because I would love to see him rotate in to keep Clark and Polamalu fresh.
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