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Old 01-06-2009, 02:05 PM   #31
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This is the BEST secondary group we have had in eons, there's no way I would want to let any of them get away.
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:06 PM   #32
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Default Re: Has Gay taken McFadden's spot for good?

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No offense taken. Most of the Rosenhaus haters think that McFadden is a gonner because he is gonna get an overpriced offer from somebody. That may be true, but he isnt exactly the top talent in the free agent CB market. I still think he can get a good offer from the Steelers and if they pay him that kind of $$, they are gonna start him.
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Asomugha and Dunta Robinson should be ranked above him by most teams
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:33 PM   #33
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Default Re: Has Gay taken McFadden's spot for good?

There was a post a month or so back about which Steeler you thought had the most upside... and to me its McFadden.
Here's hopinmg they find a way to get it done
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:37 PM   #34
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BMAC will walk. Not because we don't try and sign him but, becasue someone else will offer him more than he's worth. NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE BECOMES. He will get more money than he is worth right now based on his potential. I would love to have him back but he will get a big deal somewhere else and take the money and run ala Randel El.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:44 PM   #35
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A couple things...

1. I think B-Mac is resigned and takes over Townsend's position. I think Gay is moved to the number 3 slot. I think Townsend is signed for a year, and fights to regain is number one spot from B-Mac. It is the best of all worlds.

2. Drew Rosenhaus is a GREAT Agent for the Steelers to deal with.

http://www.steelersfever.com/forums/...d.php?p=244197

He knows how the Steelers negotiate. . . and he is upfront with them.
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:32 PM   #36
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A couple things...

1. I think B-Mac is resigned and takes over Townsend's position. I think Gay is moved to the number 3 slot. I think Townsend is signed for a year, and fights to regain is number one spot from B-Mac. It is the best of all worlds.

2. Drew Rosenhaus is a GREAT Agent for the Steelers to deal with.

http://www.steelersfever.com/forums/...d.php?p=244197

He knows how the Steelers negotiate. . . and he is upfront with them.
thanks preach.

i was sure i started a thread about it but couldnt find it with a search on rosenhaus.

the fear and loathing of drew has always baffled me. maybe its because of so many talented (yet moronic) clients he has. but i admire him in part because of his shrewdness.

if he can rake an owner like jones or snyder over the coals it is HIS JOB to do so. however he also knows what type of owners he is dealing with in the rooneys and nobody is probably more shrewd (yet reasonable) than dan, kevin and omar.

BTW- i was just about spot on with my prediction of timmons deal. fansince and i are gonna start an agency.
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:12 AM   #37
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thanks preach.

i was sure i started a thread about it but couldnt find it with a search on rosenhaus.

the fear and loathing of drew has always baffled me. maybe its because of so many talented (yet moronic) clients he has. but i admire him in part because of his shrewdness.

if he can rake an owner like jones or snyder over the coals it is HIS JOB to do so. however he also knows what type of owners he is dealing with in the rooneys and nobody is probably more shrewd (yet reasonable) than dan, kevin and omar.

BTW- i was just about spot on with my prediction of timmons deal. fansince and i are gonna start an agency.
Like I posted before, dealing with Rosenhaus clients as a rookie draft pick is pretty much painting a contract by numbers. Free Agent contracts are much different.

The loathing of Drew Rosenhaus for me dates back to when he faked a cell phone call which drove the Bills to draft Willis McGahee higher than expected. But other than that, he reportedly has stolen clients from other agents and done well for his clients at the expense of desperate teams. (Javon Kearse- Eagles, Javon Walker- Broncos,

ESPN.com spoke with six agents who have publicly and privately had issues with Rosenhaus. Four of them recently lost clients to Rosenhaus. The off-the-record feeling in the fraternity of agents is that Rosenhaus sometimes breaks the NFL Player's Association rules by directly contacting clients signed with other agents. He and his players deny this charge. Several agents, from behind the shield of anonymity, claim that Rosenhaus uses players to actively recruit other players (indirect contact is also against union regulations). Further, they speculate that Rosenhaus rewards them with them finder's fees.

Back on Feb. 26 Ken Sarnoff, a Chicago-based agent, quietly filed a grievance with the NFLPA that claimed Rosenhaus illegally initiated conversations with his former client, Arizona Cardinals wide receiver Anquan Boldin, at the scouting combine and eventually signed him last August

Players have approached McGahee who was drafted No. 23 in the 2003 NFL draft after suffering a career-threatening knee injury in his final college game at Miami about hiring Rosenhaus. What does he tell them? "Come on over to the dark side," McGahee said, smiling.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print...819&type=story

I applaud free enterprise, but basically the NFL is a cartel (sp?) and Rosenhaus is as greasy as the come. But, in the end......McFadden is a 2nd level talented CB on the market and we might resign him, but the Steelers rarely overpay anybody.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:05 AM   #38
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Having depth at CB is nice. You can switch off and on keeping players fresh.
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:00 AM   #39
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Default Re: Has Gay taken McFadden's spot for good?

This is a nice issue to deal with, having great depth at the CB spot again. I would hate to see McFadden continue his progression with another team. He has developed very nicely and has become our 2nd best CB on the team. It appears that Tomlin has really helped Ike, McFadden, Townsend and Gay step up their play. And if we would lose McFadden then that will become another priority in the draft. I still believe McFadden will get a nice offer from the Steelers to stay. Hopefully he takes it and doesn't go for the biggest contract out there.
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:05 AM   #40
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I hope so...

This will lower McFaddens expectations come free agency and possibly have other teams shy away from him.....

This could mean that we get him back next year.....
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