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Old 01-14-2009, 01:56 PM   #1
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Default How to Beat the Steelers "#1" Defense

es the Steelers D is excellent. Dinking and dunking down the field just doesn't work. One consistent way it appears to beat the Steeler is to throw deep with posts patterns or deep seam patterns between the cornerbacks and the safeties. Case in point the Justin Gage TD pass in the Titans-Steelers game. It was a great pass by Collins b/c it arrived right before Troy P got there, but you have to make these type of big plays in order to beat their D. Remember in 2006, Clayton toasted Troy P on a post pattern for TD. Yes it was a great throw by McNair, but again, you gotta make those plays. Brady has had some really good success against the Steelers (what team hasnt he had success against), and he would always throw that deep pattern and beat their safeties. (Brady: 2005 Championship game against Pitt with the Deion Branch, and last year regular season game with Moss). Flacco has gotta throw it deep about 5-6 times and hopefully he will hit on 1 or 2 times. I really think this a key to beating them. Last week, he hit 2 against the Titans. Sure one of them was a great adjustment on a jump ball by Clayton, but the receiver always has the advantage b/c they are reacting to the flight of the ball. The DB is chasing the receiver first, and then reacting to the ball. Even if that ball got picked, the Titans would have been down inside the 10. During our 13-9 loss, I do not remember Flacco going deep once, and if he did, it was once or twice. If he goes 0-5 on deep balls, we lose, but 1 or 2, now we gotta a game....

I have noticed how we really miss DWill, b/c we really only have 2 receivers. Not that DWill was a game changer, but he was another option that D has to respect. Marcus Smith is an invisble man out there. Why even cover him? I know everyone is complaining that our offense is pretty damn vanilla recently, but a lot of times, we only have 2 receivers going out on a pass play. 2 receivers are a lot easier to cover then 3 or 4. The Steelers can be beat by spreading them out with 4 receivers, but with one being Copper or Smith, the risk of having less blockers in to protect Flacco outweighs the reward. Losing DWill has really limited this. If we do have the 2 receiver patterns, I would like to install a RB wheel route against a Steeler LB. It worked nicely for the Colts on Rhodes' game winning TD reception to beat the Steelers.
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:00 PM   #2
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Flacco has to be standing to get the ball deep. I think the secondary can be beat on the deep balls, you make a valid point, but the boys will be coming hard. Can't wait for this one.


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Old 01-14-2009, 02:01 PM   #3
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es the Steelers D is excellent. Dinking and dunking down the field just doesn't work. One consistent way it appears to beat the Steeler is to throw deep with posts patterns or deep seam patterns between the cornerbacks and the safeties. Case in point the Justin Gage TD pass in the Titans-Steelers game. It was a great pass by Collins b/c it arrived right before Troy P got there, but you have to make these type of big plays in order to beat their D. Remember in 2006, Clayton toasted Troy P on a post pattern for TD. Yes it was a great throw by McNair, but again, you gotta make those plays. Brady has had some really good success against the Steelers (what team hasnt he had success against), and he would always throw that deep pattern and beat their safeties. (Brady: 2005 Championship game against Pitt with the Deion Branch, and last year regular season game with Moss). Flacco has gotta throw it deep about 5-6 times and hopefully he will hit on 1 or 2 times. I really think this a key to beating them. Last week, he hit 2 against the Titans. Sure one of them was a great adjustment on a jump ball by Clayton, but the receiver always has the advantage b/c they are reacting to the flight of the ball. The DB is chasing the receiver first, and then reacting to the ball. Even if that ball got picked, the Titans would have been down inside the 10. During our 13-9 loss, I do not remember Flacco going deep once, and if he did, it was once or twice. If he goes 0-5 on deep balls, we lose, but 1 or 2, now we gotta a game....

I have noticed how we really miss DWill, b/c we really only have 2 receivers. Not that DWill was a game changer, but he was another option that D has to respect. Marcus Smith is an invisble man out there. Why even cover him? I know everyone is complaining that our offense is pretty damn vanilla recently, but a lot of times, we only have 2 receivers going out on a pass play. 2 receivers are a lot easier to cover then 3 or 4. The Steelers can be beat by spreading them out with 4 receivers, but with one being Copper or Smith, the risk of having less blockers in to protect Flacco outweighs the reward. Losing DWill has really limited this. If we do have the 2 receiver patterns, I would like to install a RB wheel route against a Steeler LB. It worked nicely for the Colts on Rhodes' game winning TD reception to beat the Steelers.
It's going to be hard for the Baltimore offense.

It's going to be hard for the Steelers offense, as well.

Our DB play has been very good. We have enough talent to cover those multiple DB sets now. Last year's fiasco against NE was in a large part due to Ryan Clark's injury. Anthony Smith was plainly toast against Brady.

I'm not so sure about the wheel route. Timmons can cover very well. I haven't heard anything mentioned on television about his presence last Sunday. He was CHASING DOWN Darren Sproles.
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i hope to hell they do try some spread offense......harrison and woodley will T off on flacco all day long !!! there's a reason why the steelers only gave up a few long balls this year.....QB'S DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO LOOK DEEP !!!!
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Flacco would have to be unpressured, and that's not going to happen.

The last game, the Ravens did a good job of keeping Harrison off of Flacco with the unbalanced line and the muggings.

Don't think Tomlin and LeBeau have come up with a way to make that ploy ineffective?
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Yeah, the way to beat the Steelers is passing the ball.........not running. But I will take my chances with Taylor, Townsend, McFadden, Polamalu and Clark instead of the battered up secondary that Baltimore has.

Offensively, I like the Steelers to pull Stapleton and Miller to the left and run at Ngata-Bannan. Having no Kelly Gregg is a definate weakness.
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It's true that the Steelers can get beat deep if Flacco has enough time to throw. I mean with enough time a WR will eventually get open. But, the Steelers D won't give you many opportunities to just sit in the pocket. I believe the best way for Baltimore to move the ball is to get the ball to Heap with quick short passes.
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For starters, protect Flacco.

He has any kind of time, Mason is sure to get open.
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Other then Taylor an Troy , the secondary seem to be sup par. Townsend is just a zone hawk, and Clark is just looking for a big hit. That is definitely the Achilles heal of the Steelers D.
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The Steelers secondary is stronger then in years past, even the 05 SB team....especially in Nickle or Dime packages. That's why teams haven't been overly successful spreading out against them. Add to that, the improved pass rush. Every component compliments the other.

You spread it out, you better have a three step drop-release. With that, there is little time to get a deep pass off.
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