Cowher vs. Tomlin

[public - enemy]

Yeah bill had some terrible q.b. play and turnovers
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Man what a breath of fresh air. I think about the steelers under cowher ultra conservative
in the playoffs and afcc games. Tomlin does not try to run against brick wall with the running game. He takes chances and plays to win and not to lose. The players like this
guy and I love his saying Don't be the one to get a dwi get into trouble etc.

[Justin Otstott]

Yea tomlin might have more of a chance of winning the big games.

[Steeldude]

cowher did well when he had a QB. unfortunately, he and the FO thought a WR(kordell) could play QB in the NFL.

if the steelers had at least a somewhat average QB they would have had two more SB trips in the 90's, IMO.

[public - enemy]

I'm suggesting the ride to get to the superbowl. The ride was alot easier after
cowher stopped playing martyball. I remember Bill Belichick comment about
our team before facing us in the 04 championship For the most part we know the
steelers are going to run the ball and they are a running powerful team. Now let me translate they are going to run on 1st down get 1 or 2 yards 2nd down get 1 or 2
and then get them into a 3rd and 7or 8, with their q.b and me being a defensive
genius it will be like taking candy from a baby. As far as kordell goes he threw
in'ts in the 4th quarter when he should have been using legs instead of trying
to be a pocket passer.PLayers play, but coaches have got to put them in the best position to win and play up to the players strengths

[scsteeler]

Originally Posted by Steeldude

cowher did well when he had a QB. unfortunately, he and the FO thought a WR(kordell) could play QB in the NFL.

if the steelers had at least a somewhat average QB they would have had two more SB trips in the 90's, IMO.

The name that should not be mentioned Neil O'Donnell can be said to be an average to better than average QB and he cost us the Big Game. I just think Cowher and Tomlin have a different coaching styles and Tomlin's style is doing pretty good now.

[Edman]

Tomlin is certainly more aggressive than Cowher. But he also didn't have Kordell Stewart or Neil O'Donnell under center. If Quentin Coryatt holds onto that ball in 1995, O'Donnell wouldn't get the honor of at least going to XXX to throw it away.

If Kordell were our QB last Sunday, I would bet dollars to donuts we'd be stewing over a depression right now at yet ANOTHER Home AFC Championship game loss. Some QB's are big time. Kordell was not big time. Big Ben IS big time.

Enough of that, though. No ill will towards Kordell. Us Steelers fans just don't know how good we have it with Ben Roethlisberger.

[public - enemy]

average superbowl winning q.b's
mark rypien, bob greise, trent dilfer
brad johnson, phil simms and jeff hostetler
Now those guys are HOF.

[public - enemy]

I forgot Doug Williams

[scsteeler]

Originally Posted by public - enemy

I forgot Doug Williams

Have to Disagree with you that Doug Williams was average he was better than average with one of the strongest arms I have seen. I saw Doug play when he first came into the league as the starter for the then new franchise Tampa Bay Bucs.

[fansince'76]

Before Heinz Field's construction, Cowher also had to deal with a revolving door in FA where we were pretty much guaranteed to lose our best players every single year, his coaching staff was being raided and we lost valuable assistants on an almost yearly basis, and yet he still managed to keep this team near the top of the heap through most of his tenure. Minimize Cowher's accomplishments all you want, but he was an outstanding coach.

I'll reserve my comparison of Cowher and Tomlin for at least another decade or so, because it's an unfair comparison to both of them at this point in time.